# To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
# Subject: Additional Power Outages in Lower Manhattan
# From: Sean Donelan <sean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: 11 Sep 2001 19:58:00 -0700
ConEdision released this statement this evening:
> Due to the fire at 7 World Trade Center, electric power was lost to
> another portion of lower Manhattan. The area is bordered by Dover Street
> on the north, the East River to the east, William Street to the west
> and Wall Street to the south.
> Earlier, electric power in lower Manhattan was lost to an area bordered
> by Thomas Street to the north, Broadway on the east, the Hudson River
> on the west down to the southern tip of Manhattan.
> The company is assessing the damage and exploring service restoration
> options. Con Edison is in close contact with city officials.
There are several telco hotels near and within those bounderies, but I
don't have specific information about individual buildings.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02847.html
# To: "Youse, Chuck" <Chuck.Youse@xxxxxxxxx>, "'David Howe'" <DaveHowe@xxxxxxxxx>, "Email List: nanog" <nanog@xxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: Re: Analysis from a JHU CS Prof
# From: "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:48:15 +0100
The UK is receiving some odd 'censored' stuff. My friend, from Israel, read on a
Israeli news web site about the third building collapse (building 7 / Salomons
?) about 4 hours before they mentioned it here in the UK. Maybe that was a wrong
and/or coincidental report earlier, but it makes me wonder, and make me thankful
for the Internet in a way.
For those of us over the pond, sympathies for all those involved, and thanks to
folks on NANOG for keeping the operational information flowing. I expect that we
will hear about diesel failures here just before half of the European
connectivity fails from lower Manhattan...
rgds,
--
Peter Galbavy
Knowtion Ltd.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02927.html
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02925.html
Re: cnn.com cuts graphics
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At 10:20 AM 9/11/2001 -0700, steve uurtamo wrote:
>
>> cnn.com has switch to very low graphics, in a very good response to
the
>> congestion they have to be experiencing.
>
>they also have a total of like one or two photos up, so http caching
>should work well for ISPs whose customers are trying to reach them.
>
>i'm glad someone over at cnn acted quickly -- those high K pages were
>painfully slow to load.
>
>anyone who's been putting it off really ought to consider setting up
>a web cache -- it's really the only way that dialup customers can get
>to news sites at times like this.
CNN is (supposedly) Akamaizing most of their images & possibly their whole
site. Things should get better for you if you have Akamai servers
on-net. (And even if you do not.)
>s.
--
TTFN,
patrick
http://www.atm.tut.fi/list-archive/nanog/msg02772.html
# To: George William Herbert <gherbert@xxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: Re: World Trade Center attack
# From: Marc MERLIN <marc_news@xxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:51:30 -0700
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:59:27PM -0700, George William Herbert wrote:
> This is not operational, but relates to major network service staff.
>
> There is a report from senior management of one of Akamai's competitors
> that the President and several execs of Akamai were on one of the
> aircraft which crashed into the WTC.
The report only talks about the CTO:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/bs/crash_akamai_dc_1.html
Marc
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02783.html
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 12:49:24 +1000 (EST)
> Been told by Worldcomm that 100ds3's are down in NYC. Furthermore they
> are under government control and will be directed in what to drop or
> leave up.
CNN is reporting that one of the CA based telco's top exec's were in the
WTC at a meeting, all dead...
---
Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02848.html
Akamai Technologies Mourns the Loss of Co-Founder and CTO Daniel Lewin
Cambridge, MA, September 11, 2001 - With great sadness, Akamai
Technologies, Inc. today announced the passing of Daniel C. Lewin,
co-founder, chief technology officer and board member of the Company.
American Airlines confirmed that he was on board the Boston to Los Angeles
flight that crashed in New York City today. Danny was 31 years old and is
survived by his wife and two sons.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02835.html
# To: <nanog@xxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: WTC: pilot puzzle
# From: "Mathias Körber" <mathias@xxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 13:31:45 +0800
This was just mentioned on a CNN chatboard:
quote from the board: So Ameer Bukhari, student pilot, from Vero Beach,
Florida was killed in a plane crash on 9-11-00 and Ameer Bukhari from Vero Beach,
Florida hijacked a plane and crashed it into the WTC/Pentagon/rural area on 9-11-01?
What is going on? The first link is to a cincinatti newspaper, scroll down and read about
the
plane crash. Check out the 2 articles.
http://enquirer.com/editions/2000/09/13/loc_tristate_a_m_report.html
http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/12/investigation.terrorism
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03059.html
The second (CNN) article did say that Ameer was believed to have been killed
in a mid-air collision but the article became bizarre because it went on to
say that Ameer Bukhari and his brother were two of the pilots responsible
for the hijackings on Tuesday. I've heard about faking your death, but
it's kind of difficult to fake your death when you collide mid-air with
another aircraft.
The second article has since been updated to say that Ameer's brother Adnan
is actually in FBI custody and is cooperating with FBI agents. Neither
Bukhari brother (alive or dead) piloted the hijacked aircraft. The article
says the mistake was made because their names were "tied to a car left at an
airport in Portland, Maine". Adnan Bukhari's lawyer is saying that it
appears the brothers' identities were stolen and that Adnan had no role in
the hijackings. There is an apology from CNN on that link. The story
itself has been corrected, and an apology has been inserted into the text.
It was an interesting mystery while it lasted...
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03208.html
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 09:45:47 +0800
Yup. And it taught me that references to CNN URLs are
useless, as CNN updates the stories. One has to save/quote
the whole articles. (In the first version of that article
there was no mention of Ameer's earlier death).
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03504.html
# Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:25:37 +0200
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46747,00.html
How many have installed it?
-Hank
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03115.html
Re: Carnivore
* To: Roeland Meyer <rmeyer@xxxxxxxx>
* Subject: Re: Carnivore
* From: Jeff Gehlbach <jeffg@xxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:07:40 -0400
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 09:55:28AM -0700, Roeland Meyer wrote:
>
> You know, folks beat up on Mitch for what he did and [I think] it is well
> deserved. But, they don't bat an eye-lash when the FBI does this? It is a
> much more serious offence.
Absolutely. I think it's just that we've all come to expect it from the
FBI, and we can hardly get away from their agenda by voting them off the
list. Sad on both counts.
(my opinions)
-jeff
--
Jeff Gehlbach, Concord Communications <jgehlbach@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Senior Professional Services Consultant, Atlanta
ph. 770.384.0184 fax 770.384.0183
From: "Hank Nussbacher" <hank@xxxxxxxxxx>
> How many have installed it?
and how many would install it without a court order specifying the
limits of its use?
and how many would install it without filtering to those limits?
It's probably illegal for folks to say. See
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/2511.html,
section (2)(a)(ii)(B),
if it's an ordinary criminal warrant, and section (b)(2)(C) of
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/50/1805.html
for wiretaps
under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. (Btw, both acts
*require* the government to pay.)
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03148.html
I just heard this from a commentator on ABC News:
[US Intelligence] has the ability to "Sweep up all communication going
around the world in a very broad way."
There are currently "millions and millions of phone calls in this vacuum
cleaner."
"They will be sorting through all of the communications going through phone
numbers that they have an interest in."
The reporter also mentioned that the officials have to be careful not to
intercept calls of US Citizens.
----------------------------------
ObOperationalAndRelevant Link:
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010906/wr/mideast_usa_internet_dc_3.html
ObAlsoOperationallyRelevant:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-2001303964,00.html
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02856.html
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 09:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
--- Marshall Eubanks <tme@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| >
| > They must be referring to echelon. What's interesting
| > is that ABC news is saying that they have echolon
| > like capabilities in the Continental US.
| >
| > This is much rumoured but always denied and probably
| > technically illegal.
|
| Hogwash. The US laws prevent only the US Agency from spying on it's
| citizens. There is nothing that prevents the other Echelon partners (I
| beleive they are Austrailia, Britian, and New Zealand) from doing the
| spying and sharing the results.
|
| -Jim P.
The US doesn't even bother with all of that; they directly monitor domestic
communications of American citizens as a matter of routine. Sad, but true.
I know this because I know someone who used to be involved with the project.
He denies that it is called Echelon but he does not deny that it exists.
John
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03146.html
Alpha paging systems: any faults thus far?
* To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
* Subject: Alpha paging systems: any faults thus far?
* Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:36:25 -0400
At least here on the East Coast (DC Metro region) there has been significant difficulty
with cell phone call completion during the last 14 hours or so; this has been reported by
various sources, and I won't go into the reasons or solutions to that problem; see
previous posts today for various interpretations.
I'm wondering if anyone has experienced issues with their alpha paging systems, which now for a large percentage of users ride along the same systems as the voice traffic (i.e.: the alpha paging is built into the cell phone carrier and handset.) It's also quite possible that even the normal alpha paging systems that are non-cellphone based have experienced higher than normal traffic, leading to difficulties with completions or significant delays - I'm speculating here. I'm sure that the NYC region has seen quite a jump in two-way alpha paging activity today, as an example.
Brief experimentation showed that Verizon's email-to-cellphone service for handsets in the MD/DC area is functional (sample size=1) but it perhaps would be reasonable for others to chime in as to how their service is performing, as many of us rely upon this system for notifications. If we can establish if there are any faults in this system it will perhaps save some of us more difficulty in the next day or so. In the best case, it will create a number of test pages going through the system so that you at least can say with some certainty that it works/doesn't work, and if the latter you'll be compelled to stick close to a nice warm screen this fine spring night, staring at little green dots, waiting for them to become little red dots.
Even a number of you who have NOC staffs 24x7 still keep something tied to an
electronic paging system of some sort. Good for you if you don't; don't clutter the list
with smug replies.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02858.html
# To: Sheldon Dubrowin <dubrowin@xxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
# From: Jake Baillie <jake@xxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:32:14 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
A new plane just crashed in Dayton, OH at a VA hospital - rumor from the
President's sister... can anyone confirm?
-- jake
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02797.html
# To: Jake Baillie <jake@xxxxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
# From: "Jason A. Mills" <phyxis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:24:04 -0700 (PDT)
False alarm...
http://www.activedayton.com/partners/whiotv/news/0911_vacenter.html
Sonic Booms Rock Dayton Area
WHIO-TV, NEWSCENTER 7
Two sonic booms rocked the Dayton area
late Tuesday afternoon.
The sounds prompted unconfirmed
reports of a possible plane crash near
the Veterans Administration Center in
Dayton.
A white plume of smoke seen rising in
the area was from an unrelated
grass fire.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02825.html
I can absolutely deny that. What caused this rumor was two sonic booms
caused by jet fighter aircraft that were scrambling to escort Air Force
1. (It passed directly over my house with the escorts) There was ALSO a
grass fire behind the VA hospital. When people who are unfamiliar with
sonic booms and air crashes hear the booms, see the smoke from the grass
fire, they assume that it's a crash.
We heard the rumor as well. I confirmed with an onsite observer at the VA
Hospital with the Central Ohio Amateur Radio Emergency Service. There was
NO CRASH at Dayton.
---
John Fraizer, KC4KGU
EnterZone, Inc
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02859.html
RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
* To: "deeann mikula" <deeann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Charles Sprickman"
<spork@xxxxxxxx>
* Subject: RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
* From: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding@xxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:18:16 -0400
The problem seems to be site limiting, rather than network limiting. i.e.,
news sites are being overloaded, which is causing slow or no response to
http queries due to either server overload (my guess) or news site transit
link overload (also possible). This is what seems to be causing lacking of
response to news sites, instead of generalized network or peering
congestion.
It doesn't help that it looks like CNN decided to turn off the "akamization"
of their content. This had the immediate effect of helping them get the news
up on their site faster, but the lack of Flash Crowd protection really hurt
them in the long run.
It is definately a Flash Crowd day. :(
- Daniel Golding
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-nanog@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
deeann mikula
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 10:22 AM
To: Charles Sprickman
Cc: Avi Freedman; nanog@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Charles Sprickman wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Avi Freedman wrote:
>
> > FYI, 2 planes crashed into the world trade center.
> > Sounds like on purpose.
>
> > Not to be ghoulish, but the traffic impact is looking to be fairly large
> > on the 'net (and on the PSTN in the NYC area).
few people (in pgh, PA) that i have been talking to on irc have
reported ./'d news sites everywhere. (cnn.com, yahoo.com, msnbc.com,
etc.) my office has been relegated am radio, which is pretty pathetic
for an ISP.
pretty poor performance for a network orginally designed to faciliate
communication in just such circumstances. i hope that military and
federal communication is faring better than the commercial sites.
> All VHF TV stations except for CBS 2 are off the air, many radio stations
> are off the air, and it's largely impossible to get a call in. All
i assume that in nyc or dc only. we are listening to AM radio just
fine...
deeann m.m. mikula
director of operations
telerama public access internet
http://www.telerama.com
1.877.688.3200
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02673.html
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 11:39:56AM -0400, Steve Bellovin wrote:
> cnn.com has switch to very low graphics, in a very good response to the
> congestion they have to be experiencing.
CNN.com has had a graceful degradation process in place for some years,
but this is the hardest I've *ever* seen them cut it (logo and text;
that's it.)
Google also has a cached version of an earlier page, with a front page
link.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02711.html
# To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
# Subject: RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
# From: Randy Neals <rneals@xxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:32:58 -0400
Traffic patterns on our network are starting to look different than normal.
I expected more traffic but it seems that traffic volumes are decreasing
slightly.
What are others seeing?
-Randy
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02640.html
More good news (for me, anyway): my son Nathan was at his desk
on the 58th floor when the first plane hit and he escaped with no injuries.
I don't know if he will still have a job, but at least he's safe. Info
came via AIM.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02694.html
"Jason A. Mills" <phyxis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
writes:
> Has anyone seen if GPS SA was re-enabled? (aka the Selective Availablity
> "blur" effect).
I have seen no evidence of SA as of a couple of hours ago. I was
looking for it, actually.
---Rob
Re: GPS SA enabled?
* To: "Jason A. Mills" <phyxis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Subject: Re: GPS SA enabled?
* From: Ryan Tucker <rtucker@xxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:20:35 -0400
As of 1620, over Rochester NY, GPS SA does not appear to be in effect. -rt
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02751.html
To: Joe Lapolito <jlapolit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:29:51 -0400 (EDT)
CC: Avi Freedman <freedman@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Joe Lapolito <jlapolit@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
If you could also post this:
Furthur update:
We just lost contact with all our equipment at 32 Old Slip.
Joe Lapolito
Dir. Network Eng.
NaviPath
RE: World Trade Center attack
* To: "Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Jake Baillie" <jake@xxxxxxxxxxx>
* Subject: RE: World Trade Center attack
* From: "Eric Germann" <ekgermann@xxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:03:56 -0400
* Cc: "Travis Pugh" <tdp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Youse, Chuck"
<Chuck.Youse@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Nanog@Merit. Edu'" <nanog@xxxxxxxxx>
* Importance: Normal
* In-reply-to: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0109111810270.7525-100000@amethyst.nstc.com>
http://www.cleveland.com/focuson/news/index.ssf?/news/more/ap/09newhijack11.
html
By PAUL SINGER Associated Press Writer
9/11/01
CLEVELAND (AP) - A Delta flight from Boston was forced to land Tuesday at
Cleveland Hopkins International Airport because of fears it had been
hijacked, city officials said. Although authorities had been worried that
there might be a bomb on board, no explosives were found.
The Federal Aviation Administration had been informed at 9:45 a.m. of a
possible hijacking of a plane headed for Cleveland, said FBI spokesman Mark
Bullock.
Flight 1989 to Los Angeles was not hijacked but was grounded by Delta
because it was in the same flight pattern as a plane that was hijacked and
struck the World Trade Center in New York, Bullock said.
The Delta plane landed in Cleveland about 10:45 a.m. Tuesday with 78
passengers aboard, airport officials said.
FBI spokesman Bob Hawk said that since the Delta plane left Boston about the
same time as one of the hijacked planes, passengers were being interviewed
to see if they saw anything unusual Tuesday morning.
After the plane landed, the passengers were evacuated and the plane was
searched for about three hours, airport officials said.
The airport was closed and bomb-sniffing dogs were brought to baggage pickup
areas.
"There was no bomb, and no hijacking," White said Tuesday afternoon. "The
measures that were taken were taken as precautionary measures."
==========================================================================
Eric
Germann
CCTec
ekgermann@xxxxxxxxx
Van Wert OH 45801
http://www.cctec.com
Ph: 419 968 2640
Fax: 603 825 5893
"It is so easy to miss pretty trivial solutions to problems deemed
complicated. The goal of a scientist is to find an interesting problem,
and live off it for a while. The goal of an engineer is to evade
interesting problems :)" -- Vadim Antonov <avg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> on NANOG
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Seth M. Kusiak wrote:
> |Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus
attack in
> conjunction.
> A chemical virus?
>
i think so. the CDC is preparing bioterrorism teams, according to the
(new refurbed) cnn.com site....
deeann m.m. mikula
director of operations
telerama public access internet
http://www.telerama.com
1.877.688.3200
-----
***
Directly.
On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Josh Richards wrote:
> * Seth M. Kusiak <seth.kusiak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [20010911
08:52]:
> >
> > |Additionally, FBI flash-traffic is indicating a threat of virus attack in
> > conjunction.
A chemical virus?
>
> Where are you hearing about FBI flash-traffic?
> Thanks, -jr
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02808.html
# To: "nanog@xxxxxxxxx" <nanog@xxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: 800 service affected?
# From: Roy <garlic@xxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:19:45 -0700
According to Genuity:
"In response to today's tragic events, the Federal Communications Commission
has shut down all non-critical 1-800 numbers around the country."
I haven't seen any sign of this.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02817.html
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:27:29 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Our, and at least InterNAPs number, we temporarily affected.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02831.html
# To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
# Subject: Scans and Probes Increasing?
# From: mike harrison <meuon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:15:21 -0400 (EDT)
Ok, we run a small network, but since this morning, the amount of
non-port-80 (CodeRed and Ilk) scans and probes and smurf attempts
have gone through the roof... no-holds barred scanning (not subtle
probing) from Tiawan, India and US (Cable/DSL mostly) IP's.
Are other seeing it as well? --mike--
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02832.html
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 07:01:11 -0400
Same thing here, 15 fold increase this morning (by the IDS), and we're an
even smaller network. Also seeing a lot more Sircam email. Don't know if
its a social issue (more stupid users are leaving their PC's on) or
engineered in. Going to be another fun day ...
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02920.html
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, John A. Tamplin wrote:
>
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2001 rekoil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
>
> > One question: are there any survivors that made it down to ground level
> > from floors above the point of impact? Or were all of those people
> > trapped in their offices?
>
> Yes, there was an interview with a survivor from the 82nd floor (not sure
> which tower, but that should be above the impact point in both) who said
> they and everyone on their floor made it out. Also, at least one of the
> people pulled out of the rubble alive was above the impact point when it
> collapsed.
both towers are 110 stories... The north tower impact was above the 90th
floor. the south tower appears to be around 70 or lower...
> John A. Tamplin jat@xxxxxxxx
> 770/436-5387 HOME 4116 Manson Ave
> 770/431-9459 FAX Smyrna, GA 30082-3723
Joel Jaeggli joelja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Academic User Services consult@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
PGP Key Fingerprint: 1DE9 8FCA 51FB 4195 B42A 9C32 A30D 121E
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02957.html
On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 02:06:24PM -0400, John Fraizer wrote:
>
>
> According to my sources inside Sun, everyone from their offices got out
> OK. That was the word he had when I spoke to him at around 11:45pm -400
> on the 11th.
> ---
> John Fraizer
> EnterZone, Inc
>
> On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Terence wrote:
> >
> >
> > Sun Microsystems occupied 2 whole floors of one tower of the WTC.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03080.html
On Wed, 12 Sep 2001, Terence wrote:
> Sun Microsystems occupied 2 whole floors of one tower of the WTC.
One of my friends was scheduled for "Sun Fire" training on the 20th floor
9am this morning. He ended up dodging falling debris from the second
crash. Terrifying.
-Dan
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02904.html
I can confirm the other report...
A friend of the family made it out of the second building by leaving after
the impact on the first.
After the initial impact he started walking down from about 80; the building
PA system came on and told them that a plane had struck the other building
and that they were safe to return to their offices. For most of his way down
he was fighting the tide of people walking back up.
From: owner-nanog@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-nanog@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
David Charlap
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:06 PM
To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: More CNN reports...
Roeland Meyer wrote:
>
> I'm impressed. From all of the reports, the appearance is that
> they've managed to empty most of the building in less than 10
> minutes.
According to:
http://www.foxnews.com/images/36149/1_22_wtc_layout.jpg
There was 18 minutes between the first crash and the second. People in
the second tower who began evacuation as soon as they saw the first
crash had enough time to get out (or at least below the level of the
fire from the second crash), if they moved quickly.
Each tower remained standing for more than an hour after their
respective crash (tower 1 remained for 1:45, tower 2 remained for
1:02). More than enough time for people below the fires to evacuate.
Of course, those at or above the level of the fire in building one had
little chance of escape, and people in wheelchairs may have been
trapped, but it is entirely believable if most of everybody else was
able to clear out in time. But we won't know for certain for quite some
time.-- David
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03301.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/26/opinion/26FRIE.html
--vadim
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03583.html
The people who kept communications working
The Washington Post has a story about just a few of the people
who worked throughout last week keeping communication lines open,
and keeping the equipment which we all depend on working.
http://www.washtech.com/news/software/12504-1.html
"For two hours, the 49-year-old New York native lay flat on his back
on the rooftop of a 32-story building five blocks from the World Trade
Center, brushing down gray soot caked onto 18 air-conditioning coils
crucial to cooling computers that run various corporate Web sites."
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03585.html
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:12:31 -0700
Taleban Site hacked
I've been watching the list and didn't see this mentioned yet (I could very easily of
missed it though). Sorry if its old news...
http://www.interactiveweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D1825%2526a%253D14392,00.
asp
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03004.html
FEMA has requested the primary EAS stations around the country
to continue at their current state of heightened readiness.
GREETINGS:
I HAVE BEEN DIRECTED TO MAINTAIN THE CURRENT POSTURE AT THE PRIMARY ENTRY
POINT STATIONS.
ALL TESTING OF PEP STATIONS, EQUIPMENT AND PROCEDURES IS SUSPENDED UNTIL
FURTHER NOTICE.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE SUSPENSION OF ALL REGIONAL, STATE, AND LOCAL TESTING
AS WELL. THREE REASONS FOR THIS ACTION: 1) THE PUBLIC MAY MISINTERPRET THE
EAS TEST FOR A REAL EVENT, 2) EMOTIONS ARE RUNNING VERY HIGH AT THIS
TIME,
WE NEED TO PROVIDE A CALMING INFLUENCE, 3) SHOULD THE EAS NEED TO BE
ACTIVATED, AT ANY LEVEL, THE CHANNELS OF COMMUNICATION NEED TO BE AVAILABLE
TO CARRY EMERGENCY TRAFFIC NOT TEST MESSAGES.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY THANKS TO ALL WHO ARE MANNING THE STATIONS. I
KNOW IT IS A SACRIFICE, AND YOU WOULD RATHER BE WITH YOUR FAMILIES AND DEAR
ONES, BUT YOUR SERVICE TO THE NATION IS IMPORTANT AND APPRECIATED.
THANKS AGAIN FOR A JOB YOU ARE DOING VERY WELL.
PUTPRUSH SENDS
TIMOTHY L. PUTPRUSH, FEMA PEP PROJECT MANAGER
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03117.html
# To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
# Subject: On Internet and social responsibility
# From: Vadim Antonov <avg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Found on a website hosted in US by a US service provider:
> Manpower resources of
> Muslims and powerful ideological stimulus of resistance, the
> control above the basic power resources of the world, the
> geographical position and an area of movement, finally will
> destroy USA. War will come in the house of each American.
********************************************************
> And it already will be the collapse of that America, which we
> know and which is realized by Americans. The first disturbing
> symptoms of arising enmity and split of America already is
> available.
This is from the inverview with the spokesman of well-known terrorist
Shamil Basaev, known for personally taking hostage hundreds of patients in
a hospital, among other things (the spokesman is Movladi Udugov, the guy
who threatened to drop an airplane on Kremlin).
http://www.kavkaz.org/english/news/2001/09/14/news4.htm
Hosted by XO Communications - do not bother them, i already alerted their
staff.
Guys, why should a North American provider give a place for this
propaganda? Call FBI, have them trace the connections of whoever pays for
that site.
[If you decide to read the entire article - the "so-called peacemaker"
Boris Nemtsov mentioned there is a prominent pro-Western politican in
Russia, and (used to be, changed his mind after WTC attack) a leading
proponent of negotiations with Chechen militants. A shining illustration
of what you get for trying to negotiate with terrorists.]
Please, if you host websites, take a closer look at what you are hosting;
you may help to find leads for the investigation.
--vadim
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03502.html
Early morning network maintenance 4am EDT
* To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
* Subject: Early morning network maintenance 4am EDT
* From: Sean Donelan <sean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: 11 Sep 2001 13:46:28 -0700
There was a big bounce on Internet routes about 4am EDT this morning,
several hours before the plane crashed into the World Trade Center.
Where any major providers or carriers doing network maintenance this
morning on the east coast?
I'm trying to distinguish between network problems due to maintenance
and the plane crash.
Re: Early morning network maintenance 4am EDT
* To: Sean Donelan <sean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
* Subject: Re: Early morning network maintenance 4am EDT
* From: Robert Boyle <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:51:55 -0400
At 01:46 PM 9/11/2001 -0700, you wrote:
There was a big bounce on Internet routes about 4am EDT this
morning,
several hours before the plane crashed into the World Trade
Center.
Where any major providers or carriers doing network maintenance
this
morning on the east coast?
I'm trying to distinguish between network problems due to
maintenance
and the plane crash.
Verizon has been upgrading their frame relay switches across the northeast this entire week. I'm not sure how much of this maintenance has been rescheduled now. When I called the Verizon DNCC this morning at 4:00AM when almost all of our NJ frame circuits disappeared, they stated they are doing one state per night this entire week from 3AM to 6AM. They said they were surprised I wasn't notified and they said that apparently nobody else was either based on the volume of calls received vs. when maintenance is properly announced . Everything was back up by 6:00AM.
-Robert
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02836.html
# To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx
# Subject: Network Premption Procedures
# From: Sean Donelan <sean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: 11 Sep 2001 12:10:46 -0700
# Delivered-to: zerbey@geron2us.wibble.co.uk
Although most people aren't aware of it, buried in the telecommunication
tariffs are a set of network preemption procedures. In event of an
federal emergency, any working telecommunication circuit can be
preempted to restore an emergency circuit. In event of an federal
emergency, restoration priorities are set by the government, not the
carrier. Specific circuits must be restored first, before customer
circuits. The carrier is supposed to alert you when they need to
preempt your circuit, but inability to contact you won't slow them
down.
Once again, ISPs shouldn't take action before being requested. If
your circuits are prempted, the carrier has a schedule of which circuits
to restore first.
TCG (ATT Local Service), Sprint and Verizon had equipment located
in the World Trade Center towers. Most service was delivered
locally to the towers, but some intra and inter city loops passed
through the facilities. Carriers are reporting several hundred
local loops impacted in New York City. Most inter-city and backbone
circuits appear to have already been re-routed.
A lot of European circuits pass through the area, but at this time,
all appear to be operating or have already be re-routed.
The electrical grid sustained some damage near the world trade center.
Most providers in the area have 8 hours of battery or generator. A
couple of providers have issued warnings there may be service
disruptions if batteries are generators run down.
# To: Sean Donelan <sean@xxxxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: Re: Early morning network maintenance 4am EDT
From: Robert Boyle <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Verizon has been upgrading their frame relay switches across the northeast this entire
week.
I'm not sure how much of this maintenance has been rescheduled now.
When I called the Verizon DNCC this morning at 4:00AM when almost all of our NJ
frame circuits
disappeared, they stated they are doing one state per night this entire week from 3AM to
6AM.
They said they were surprised I wasn't notified and they said that apparently
nobody else was
either based on the volume of calls received vs. when maintenance is properly announced
.
Everything was back up by 6:00AM.
-Robert
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02836.html
http://www.montereyca.com/rc/business/docs/10029699.htm
On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 01:32:47PM -0400, Tim Brown wrote:
> > Slashdot is reporting a rumor that Akamai's founder was onboard a plane
> into NYC at about the time of the crash. Can someone from Akamai confirm
> or deny?
>
> Thanks,
> Tim
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02743.html
# To: nanog@xxxxxxxxx, owner-nanog@xxxxxxxxx
# Subject: RE: World Trade Center attack
# From: Kevin_Badeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:12:44 -0500
Been told by Worldcomm that 100ds3's are down in NYC. Furthermore they are
under government control and will be directed in what to drop or leave up.
-
Phone lines are all tied up, but AIM and email are working great for
me.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02677.html
# To: "'Alex Kamantauskas'" <alexk@xxxxxxxxxx>, "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" <hcb@xxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
# From: "Wayne Gustavus" <wgustavus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:59:21 -0400
Actually, local news here in Washington, DC (WJLA Ch7 and WRC Ch4) is
showing video footage of the damage to the Pentagon on the side next to the
heliport pad. It is possible that there was confusion b/c the damage
occured on the side of the Pentagon that is next to the helicopter landing
pad. However, an eyewitness on the news reported that he saw the American
Airlines plane crash into the side of the building. The damage is quite
extensive since it appears the plane was able to punch through from the
outer ring all the way to the center court yard. The roof over this section
has also collapsed.
Also, despite some reports from the news, the Pentagon is primarily *above*
ground. Having spent a couple of years working for the Pentagon Renovation
program and seeing many areas of the Pentagon few have seen (some not so
glamorous like steam tunnels), there are only 2 levels below ground. These
levels do not exist under the entire
Pentagon.http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02715.html
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:26:52 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
we've been compiling as many WTC pics as we can.. Lots of places we got
them from were getting killed, so we mirrored them for faster access.
http://wtc.nac.net
We, in Parsippany, NJ (about 30 miles due west of WTC) were able to see
the smoke plums from our roof:
http://wtc.nac.net/www.liquid-dynamics.net/pics/WTC/Roof%2520of%2520NAC/MVC-010F.JPG
Some operation content: We've lost 32 Old Slip; 25 B'way is running on
generator, and they say they have at least 50 - 70 hours of fuel left.
*all* circuits we have from 25 B'way to 111 8th, 60 Hudson, and many other
buildings are still up. Many circuits which pass on MFN fiber are still
OK. 32 Old Slip appears to be power related. So much for generators.
Distance of 25 B'Way to 2 WTC:
http://www.mapquest.com/cgi-bin/mqtrip?link=btwn%2Ftwn-ddir_na_basic_main&uid=udgaibn9m219v5bd%3Atn9r2l9z1&oabgcderr=&dabgcderr=&avoid_ferry=&avoid_lmTD_access=&avoid_toll_roads=&route_type=&results_display_mode=&LangOpt=&AB_LABELS=&WORK=&CCNA=&ADDR_0=2+World+Trade&OPC=null&CITY_0=New+York&STATE_0=NY&ZIP_0=&CC_0=US&ADDR_1=25+Broadway&DPC=null&CITY_1=New+York&STATE_1=NY&ZIP_1=&CC_1=US&POIRad=2.0&dir.x=0&dir.y=0
According to Mapquest, 700 meters by road.
-- Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR, alex@xxxxxxx, latency,
Al Reuben --
-- Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36, http://www.nac.net --
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02862.html
New York City's primary network 161.185.0.0/16 including the
www.nyc.gov web site is off the net this evening.
It was up
all day, and providing public information about emergency
response, shelters and transit status. I've tried from
two different network providers.
Applied Theory, NYC's primary name server, is up.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02870.html
Our equipment at 32 Old Slip is not operational. This is apparently
due to AC power failure and an inability to start the generators due
to ash in the air (this may be a choice as well). Anyone running at
32 Old Slip (TCG/Eagle/Focal/GNAPs are the four I know of on the
fourth floor) on DC power is on battery or offline.
Our POP at 60 Hudson is up with the MFS/WorldCom provided backhaul
circuit to our 34 Exchnage Place Jersey City location, but all
Verizon circuits terminating at 60 Hudson are down/down. All MFS/WCom
circuits seem to be ok so far...
-Robert
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02877.html
As for our 32 Old Slip location, located in Focal (8th Fl, I think), we
have power once again.
dial1.fnj> ver
System uptime is 4 hours 30 minutes
This was at Wed Sep 12 11:10:01 EDT 2001.
All of our PRIs into the Focal switch are down:
dial1.fnj> sho line0
---------------------- line0 - T1 Primary Rate ISDN ---------------
Status: DOWN Framing: ESF Encoding: B8ZS PCM: u-law
Receive Level: +2dB to -7.5dB
Alarms
Violations
-----------------------------
-----------------------------
*Blue
1
Bipolar
14164694
Yellow
0 CRC
Errors
0
Receive Carrier Loss
1 Multiframe
Sync 3608661
*Loss of
Sync
1
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03092.html
At GlobalNAPs on the 4th floor at 32 Old Slip, power has been
restored via generator, but all Verizon circuits in the building are
down. Our point to point T1 lines are down and I am guessing that all
IMT trunks into CLECs in the building are also down as a result.
Our GlobalNAPs PRIs are up, but we get a fast busy dialing in.
gnapsny1> sho isdn
D Ports State L1 L2 Change init
Up Down
-- ------- ------------- ------- ----- ----- -----
0 S0-S22 UP Active
8:06 2 2 1
1 S24-S46 UP Active
8:06 3 2 2
core1-gnapsny uptime is 8 hours, 4 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System restarted at 07:09:24 UTC Wed Sep 12 2001
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg03100.html
Re: Verizon COs affected by WTC damage?
* To: Scott Drassinower <scottd@xxxxxxxxxx>, nanog@xxxxxxxxx
* Subject: Re: Verizon COs affected by WTC damage?
* From: Robert Boyle <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
* Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:47:34 -0400
* Delivered-to: zerbey@geron2us.wibble.co.uk
* Delivered-to: nanog-outgoing@trapdoor.merit.edu
* Delivered-to: nanog@trapdoor.merit.edu
* Delivered-to: nanog@merit.edu
* In-reply-to: <20010911160434.V4769-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net>
* Sender: owner-nanog@xxxxxxxxx
<x-flowed>
At 04:23 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, you wrote:
Verizon has/had a CO (NYCMNYST) in the South Tower of the Trade
Center.
I would guess this is now destroyed. Does anyone know where
exactly in
the tower or complex the CO was? They also had
sales/administrative
offices there on a couple of floors there.
Covad is reporting that the West Street CO, near the WTC (NYCMNYWS,
140
West Street) currently has services affected due to a fire in the
building. Has anyone else heard about a fire there?
I just received this from one of the CLECs we use in NYC:
"It seems that a Verizon Building in NYC has collapsed amid the wake of problems
surrounding the WTC. As of right now the damage is not fully assessed, please bear with
us and Verizon at this time, there is not much many can do amid this crisis."
I hope all their people and the firefighters made it out ok.
-Robert
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02802.html
# To: "Martin, Christian" <cmartin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: RE: Horrible world trade center crash, traffic effect
# From: Alex Rubenstein <alex@xxxxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:23:04 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Tim
Info I have from Covad is that 140 West is on fire.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02769.html
Several state and local coordinating committees for broadcast television
and radion have rescheduled "required weekly test" and "required monthly
test" activations of the Emergency Alert System. The EAS is the successor
of the old Emergency Broadcast System.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02763.html
Danny Lewin, CTO and cofounder of Akamai, was on one of the planes that
hit the WTC. The press release from Akamai is at:
http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20010911/bs/crash_akamai_dc_1.html
# To: "Scott Drassinower" <scottd@xxxxxxxxxx>, <nanog@xxxxxxxxx>
# Subject: Re: Verizon COs affected by WTC damage?
# From: "Vincent J. Bono" <vbono@xxxxxxxxx>
# Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:39:40 -0400
Our switch in New York has seen a complete loss of trunking to the WTC CO.
Earlier in the day individual T1s were down in a spotty manner between us
and that CO (peppered across the OC48), but now even the SONET ring has
dropped. The CO was either in that building or adjacent to it I am told by
our techs in NYC.
We are now seeing overload on other trunks to the Verizon tandems.
-vb
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02809.html
On 11 Sep 2001, Sean Donelan wrote:
> There are several telco hotels near and within those bounderies, but I
> don't have specific information about individual buildings.
Telehouse at 33 Whitehall and 25 Broadway should fall within those
boundaries. This message is reaching you via 25 Bway pipes, but Thouse
says they are on generator power and have not let on how much fuel they
have. They apparently still have staff there, which is kind of scary
considering how close to the towers they are.
32 Old Slip houses (at least) an ATT local services switch (ex-tcg,
ex-acc), Focal, and GlobalNaps. We lost PRIs and backhauls at about 5:45
p.m. The last Focal person I spoke with said the building was evacuated
this morning (it's actually quite far from WTC, relatively speaking).
Apparently whatever generator power they have has to be manually
activated.
That's all I know of in that area, any others?
Charles
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02884.html
I just spoke to the Focal NOC and they claim they have been running
on generator power at 32 Old Slip since this morning and they have
now run out and since no (fuel) trucks are allowed into the city...
Focal claims to have two people there at the building investigating
whether they can use DC power to run things until 10:30AM when they
have been told power will be restored.
Our GlobalNAPs contacts told us earlier today that the building
management at 32 Old Slip elected to not turn on the generators or
that they were unable to do so because of the soot in the air.
I'm not sure which story is true or if both are partially correct.
All staff was evacuated from the building in the AM and we are only
communicating with staff in remote cities so their information may
not be any better than us guessing.
I just wanted to relate the AC restoration time 10:30AM? and the two
conflicting stories I have heard regarding generator power at 32 Old
Slip.
http://www.wibble.co.uk/archives/nanog/2001/msg02902.html
-Robert
