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Connect the Dot-coms  Saudi Binladin Group - MURDER ?
Connect Business as usual for Bin Laden group
www.saudi-binladin-group.com
IRIDIUM

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The Saudi Bin-Laden Group had registered a website on September 11 2000
it expired on September 11 2001.

Coincidentally, the Saudi BinLadin Group was also invovled with
 the Iridium satellite system (that went BUST, billions were lost).
The first Satellite went up on Sept 11 1997,
and the papers were signed for the project on Sept 11 1998.....

Just another of those 9/11 coincidences...

Now, for the details + connections...



www.saudi-binladin-group.com
Mon Feb 21, 2005 03:18(Posted APFN)
 
i did a little search on this web page.
This is kinda long, but the first 1/2 may be valuable...

for those who didnt know
www.saudi-binladin-group.com
was registared from september 11th 2000 to september 11th 2001
it was $35 to renew, but they never did. this is a BIG company so it raised red flags.
( you will find it in some of the 9/11 oddity pages...)
online blogs had the old info...
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Saudi Binladin Group
Contact Information
Saudi Binladin Group
P.O. Box 8918
Jeddah 21492, Saudi Arabia
Tel. +966-2-664-3033
Fax +966-2-664-3261

Type: Private
On the web: http://www.sbg.com.sa

Although the name "bin Laden" is tied to terrorist mastermind Osama, members of his family (he has more than 50 siblings) prefer to be known for the business operations of the Saudi Binladin Group. The family reportedly disowned Osama bin Laden in 1994. The conglomerate was founded in 1931 by Osama's father, Yemeni immigrant Mohammed bin Laden (or Binladin). By developing close ties to the Saudi royal family, the group expanded to include construction, engineering, manufacturing, and telecommunications. Construction projects include airports, housing complexes, tunnels, and bridges. The group's industrial and power projects unit operates as Arabian BEMCO Contracting Co.

Officers:
Chairman and CEO, Saudi Binladin and Binladin Group International: Bakr M. Binladin
Director Finance: Omar Bamaga
President, Binladin Group International: Omar M. Binladin

Competitors:
Bechtel
Bouygues
VINCI


The SBG was founded in 1950 by the family patriarch, Sheikh Mohammed bin Laden, who had the good luck of befriending the country's founder,
Abdel Aziz al Saud, a relationship led to important government contracts such as refurbishing the shrines at Mecca and Medina.

After the death of Sheikh Mohammed in 1968, the group was headed by Mohammed Bahareth, brother of Mohammed's first wife and uncle of his oldest children. In 1972, Sheikh Salem bin Laden, the eldest son, took over as his father's successor, with the assistance of several brothers. Upon Salem's death in a plane crash in 1988, the leadership of the group passed to his eldest son, Bakr, the current chairman, along with thirteen other brothers who make up the board of the bin Laden group, the most important of these being Hassan, Yeslam and Yehia. By 2002, the company had 35,000 employees worldwide, and was worth $5 billion.[1]

Current activities

The bin Laden group is represented in most Saudi cities – Riyadh, Damman – and in a number of capital cities in the region (Beirut, Cairo, Amman, Dubai). According to a recent synopsis by PBS Frontline:[2]

Internationally the Group's operations are handled by the Geneva, Switzerland-based Saudi Investment Company (SICO), headed by Yeslam bin Ladin. The group also set up a representative firm in London, Binexport, in November 1990.

On December 20, 2005, the government of Saudi Arabia awarded a consortium of Saudi and Emirati companies, including the Saudi Binladin Group, a $26.6 billion contract to build King Abdullah Economic City.[3]

Website

Although it had distanced itself from their relative and former company employee Usama, the Saudi Binladin Group's corporate website, [4][5] 
expired on September 11, 2001, the same day as the attacks in the United States.[6] A new website within the .sa top-level domain appeared later.

References

  1. ^ http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101010924/wosama.html
  2. ^ http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/family.html
  3. ^ http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/12/20/051220165102.rfmm4n2n.html
  4. ^ Corproate website – current version
  5. ^ Corporate website – archived version as of Nov. 2001
  6. ^ http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,48254,00.html

External links

. Prior Knowledge No Oil War - 9/11 conspiracy
Agency, Saudi Sheik Salem M. bin Laden appointed Bath as ... first entered into the bin Laden relationship while the elder ... for Directorship of CIA) Bin laden, along with his brothers

Iran/Contra Connections to 9/11
Saudi bin Laden group when Salem bin Laden died in ... K/Khalid-bin-Mahfuz.htm . Osama bin Laden The emergence ... purchase by Osama bin Laden's older brother, Salem. [See, Khashoggi XIX
http://911review.org/Alex/Iran-Contra_911.html

. Arbusto - 9/11Encyclopedia
Arbusto, started with Salem bin Laden, who appointed James ... relationship with the bin Laden financial empire and ... 07_01/Bush___Bin_Laden_-_George_W__B/bush___bin_laden_-_george_w__b
http://911review.org/Sept11Wiki/Arbusto.shtml


HarkenGate, the File

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(current page for the Saudi Bin-Laden Group)

http://www.sbg.com.sa/
Copyright © 2000 Saudi Binladen Group All rights reserved Reproduction in whole or in part in any form
or medium without express written permission of Saudi Binladen Group.
This site is built and maintained by
TRInet K.S.A.
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TRInet K.S.A.

212.119.65.146    Guatemala?
inetnum:        212.119.65.0 - 212.119.65.255
netname:        Cyberia
descr:          Cyberia is an Internet Service provider in SA Serving
descr:          Dial-up, Dedicated lines, Domain names requests, DSL
country:        SA
admin-c:        ME1159-RIPE
tech-c:         KS1768-RIPE
tech-c:         ME1159-RIPE
rev-srv:        ns1.cyberia.net.sa
rev-srv:        ns2.cyberia.net.sa
status:         ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by:         OGER-SA
source:     RIPE # Filtered

person:       Majdi Eid
address:      Cyberia, P.O.Box 301079  Riyadh 11379
phone:        +9664647114
fax-no:       +96614654735
nic-hdl:      ME1159-RIPE
source:       RIPE # Filtered

person:       Khalid Salman
address:      Cyberia, P.O.Box 301079  Riyadh 11379
phone:        +96614647114
fax-no:       +9661465 4735
e-mail:       ripe@cyberia.net.sa
nic-hdl:      KS1768-RIPE
source:       RIPE # Filtered

% Information related to '212.119.64.0/19AS34397'

route:          212.119.64.0/19
descr:          Saudi Arabia Backbone and Local Registry Address Space
descr:           CYBERIA
origin:         AS34397
mnt-by:         OGER-SA
source:        RIPE # Filtered

Khalid Salman  map

Khalid Salman Seeks Amnesty in the UK

domain: cyberia.net.sa
organization: Middle East Internet Co. Ltd.
http://whois.domaintools.com/cyberia.net.sa
address: P.O.Box 301079
address: 11372 Riyadh
req-date: 2002-08-18
reg-date: 2002-08-20
Cyberia, a regional player, will be operating in three countries, including Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia; it is one of the largest privately held Internet Service Providers in the Arab world and is one of the leading ISPs in Lebanon and Jordan.

The merger is the result of an aggressive growth strategy followed by all three companies. It is a continuation of a merger between Dallah Telecom and TRInet that took place several months ago.
http://web.archive.org/web/20030417140727/www.cyberia.net.sa/default.asp?id=0&Lang=1

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Fo those that already know this story, the update is i found who the original Registrant was and what he is up to now...

Lumsden, Philip

Registrant:
Saudi Binladin Group (SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP2-DOM)
Prince Abdullah Street Jeddah, 21492 SA
Domain Name: SAUDI-BINLADIN-GROUP.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact: *Lumsden, Philip* (PLP239) philip@ARQ.CO.UK
Arq Limited

The Old Post Office George Street Bath, BA1 2EB
UK 01224 312 391
Record last updated on 11-Sep-2000.
Record expires on 11-Sep-2001.
Record created on 11-Sep-2000.
NS0-S.DNS.PIPEX.NET 158.43.129.83
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Now, it gets interesting.

This was no accident, according to a VeriSign technician in Mountainview, Calif.
"This was timed so it would expire on that date," says the technician, who identified herself only by
her first name, Antonette, and by her employee number, 001. Antonette also verified that the information
listed in the whois search was accurate and not tampered with by an outside party. Antonette added that
VeriSign had already been contacted by law enforcement about other attack-related domain names the
company had registered.
"I had a call from the L.A. police," she said. "He was also asking about a domain name that expired on
Sept. 11. I can’t remember the name of it, but it had something to do with the WTC."

he Binladin website was created by a company called Arq Limited, a U.K. web design firm. The
administrative, technical and billing contact listed on the whois search is a man named Philip Lumsden.
After several calls to the U.K., I learned that Arq Limited went out of business, replaced by a company
called *Active 8 Solutions*, which shares the same Bath, England, mailing address and a telephone number
that is only one digit off from Arq Limited’s old number.
I learned one more interesting thing.
"*Mr. Lumsden* left a week ago," said a man who answered the phone at Active 8 Solutions. "I am not aware
of why he left."
The man, who would not give his name, added that he had "no clue" about the saudi-binladin-group.com site.

http://www.freedomdomain.com/Templemount/10_18a.html

OK, so what ?
Well,i found the original contact name...
Lumsden, Philip (PLP239) philip@ARQ.CO.UK

It is now....
Philip Lumsden
CyberSol
pcybersol@onetel.net.uk
ph - + 44 (0) 7968 019 205
www.cybersol-ltd.co.uk

TeleMedic Systems Ltd
4, Dunkleys Way
Taunton
Somerset
TA1 2LX, UK
Tel: + 44 (0) 8701 417330
Fax: + 44 (0) 8701 417425
Email: info@telemedicsystems.com
Web: www.telemedicsystems.com

and look at what he is up too ???

http://www.telemedicsystems.com/corpsite/main/tms/press_releases.htm

TeleMedic Systems signs up CyberSol Ltd to deal with business in the Middle East.

CyberSol Ltd and TeleMedic Systems recently signed an agreement for CyberSol to be a distributor of VitalLink to the Middle East.

CyberSol bring together the skills of their technology partners in order to deliver and integrate computer and communications solutions for harsh and extreme conditions. CyberSol are the leading provider of rugged solutions for remote areas and as part of their portfolio wanted to present their customers with the perfect remote medical monitoring solution.

CyberSol offer the total solution for mobile or remote units where communication is limited. With the use of the Iridium or Inmarsat service, communication can be delivered to the remote area and customers can carry on working in their remote office.

**Philip Lumsden**, Managing Director, CyberSol said, "VitalLink is the perfect tool to have on the CyberSol product list as it is rugged, robust and gives customers peace of mind when they are in remote areas that they are close to medical help, any time, anywhere." With customers covering all areas including military, law enforcement and national security agencies, emergency services, utilities, industrial, oil and gas exploration and processing, and healthcare CyberSol have the contacts for the remote medical solution
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suggested reading, theres more here...
http://citypaper.net/articles/101801/sl.howcol.shtml

Charles Boncelet, a University of Delaware computer and information sciences professor, is an expert on steganography.
Does Boncelet think that happened with saudi-binladin-group.com, which was created by a U.K. web-design firm called Arq Limited?

At first blush, he said no.

"My guess is that it is a coincidence," said Boncelet. Then, later in our conversation, he acknowledged that not only would that have been
"a hell of a coincidence," but "it may be more.
The date suggests that they would know a year in advance what they would do, if that is how they were trying to communicate."



There are a lot of strange coincidences when it comes to saudi-binladin-group.com.

Which brings us to the mysterious case of Paul Gabelia.
According to a police report, on Sun., September 1, 1996, Fairfax County, Va., police discovered human remains in the trunk of a 1991 silver Mercury Sable sedan that had been on fire.
The body’s feet and knees were bound with wire, and jumper cables were wrapped around its neck. Its hands appeared to be free.
A search of motor-vehicle records showed that the car belonged to an Alexandria, Va., attorney named Paul Gabelia and his wife, Nam Dong Kim. At 2 a.m., Sept. 2, Detective R.J. Murphy arrived at the couple’s home, knocked on the door and was greeted by an Asian female wearing blue shorts and a white T-shirt who appeared to have just woken up.
The woman walked past the front door, into the kitchen, shut off the garage light and opened the front door.
"You’re here about my husband," said the woman, Gabelia’s wife Nam Dong Kim. She opened the door and let the officers in. Kim told the police that her husband had left home about 2:30 p.m. on Sept. 1 to attend a business meeting "with some Syrian businessmen," according to the police report. Kim "did not know where this meeting would take place, but stated that Gabelia would frequently meet international businessmen at hotels near National or Dulles airports … [she] stated that Gabelia told her about the Syrians recently and had expressed his suspicion that the source of their money was not legitimate and that he planned to confront them about that."
Kim consented to a search of her house, but she wouldn’t let police examine Gabelia’s computer or a number of life insurance policies.
 Kim also told police that she and her husband were experiencing "marital difficulties, but, nothing serious and they would argue occasionally." She added that she and her two children had gone to bed about 11:30 p.m. and that she was worried.
Kim "was cooperative and appeared truthful," Murphy noted in his report.The next day, medical examiner Frances Field found the cause of death to be strangulation.
MORE>>>
http://citypaper.net/articles/102501/sl.howcol.shtml

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Live vital signs, video and voice have brought telemedicine to
reality. LiveWorks and TeleMedic Systems have formed a strategic
alliance to offer the first ever rugged and durable telemedicine
product, combining real time vital signs with two way audio and
video. This is unique as the vital signs and the two-way video/audio call
are both simultaneous. Unlike existing
systems, there is no 'store and forward' element with
 the LiveLink / VitalLink solution.
This innovative system makes real time monitoring
 more powerful in providing non-medically trained
personnel with the ability to provide assistance to casualties
 in remote medical emergency situations.
The systems are in use today with frontline workers
such as television journalists and oilfield workers


Recently LiveWorks teamed up
with UK and Saudi based
technology company Cybersol to
bring LiveWorks solutions to the
Middle East market. Since then
LiveLink has been appearing at
shows across the region. Over
the past few months the LiveLink
has made appearances at
exhibitions such as Milipol Qatar,
and earlier this month Gemex
Dubai. Later this month we can
be seen at IDEX 2003 in Abu
Dhabi. Further events will be
announced throughout the year.
Due to world events LiveLink has
is heavily deployed across the
Middle East with news crews and
also military forces. On a more
positive note Cybersol’s efforts
have resulted in the LiveLink
being purchased for oil company
emergency vehicles.
Now management can communicate
visually with field workers
directing operations based on the
best possible visual information.
For further information or to
discuss your remote inspection
requirements
please contact Phil Lumsden
at:-
pcybersol@onetel.net.uk


OK, besides that, when i started, i did a search for
http://www.arq.co.uk/

The June2001 editition comes up OK....
http://web.archive.org/web/20010616080655/http://www.arq.co.uk/

NOW, when i did that, i got a security warning from Zone alarm.
This is where the warning came from....

http://www.us-saudi-business.org/

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This is about the guy who bought the old domain name
www.saudi-binladin-group.com
(check what he put up there now)
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Last week, Curry bought saudi-binladin-group.com, the domain registered on Sept. 11, 2000, with a preset
expiration date of September. 11, 2001."I was tracking the Internet to get some information about the
Bin-ladin firm when I realized the names were about to expire," Curry says via an early morning phone
call from his home in Los Angeles
Dr. Neil Livingstone, CEO of Global Options, a Washington, D.C.-based counterterrorism and
investigations company, has looked into a number of potentially attack-related domain names registered
well before September 11, 2001.

He had not heard of the domain name Curry now owns and, initially, was intrigued.
http://citypaper.net/articles/110101/sl.howcol.shtml
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So i did a lookup on him...

http://www.shrimpo.com/
Registrant:
shrimpo LLC
11271 Ventura Boulevard #236
Studio City, California 91604
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: SHRIMPO.COM
Created on: 10-May-99
Expires on: 10-May-07
Last Updated on: 25-Oct-04
Curry, Christopher domains@shrimpo.com
Georgia - Atlanta - Big Pipe Inc
NS1.WEBCORELABS.COM NS2.WEBCORELABS.COM
ICANN Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.

66.244.238.73
OrgName: Big Pipe Inc.
OrgID: BGPP
Address: Suite 400
Address: 630 - 3rd Ave. SW
City: Calgary
StateProv: AB
PostalCode: T2P-4L4
Country: CA
Created: 10-may-1999
Expires: 10-may-2007
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
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Here is some FYI, old archives from the site before it went down...

First, on one of the old pages i found some comapny names (partners)
CATALYST TECHNOLOGY INC.
which (i THINK ?) has to do with palladium in cadalityic converters, and other things.
its quite expensive
That brought me to these people...
http://www.stillwatermining.com/

Another name was...
H.C. Price Company
WHAT'S AHEAD IN 2000
Contractor expects a pretty good year ahead
H. Charles Price, Chairman of the Board of H.C. Price Company, Dallas, Texas, and President of the Pipe
Line Contractors Association H. Charles Price is chairman of the board of H.C. Price Co., Dallas, Texas. He was born in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, and has spent his entire professional career in the pipeline construction business, beginning in 1975 when he worked on Section No. 3 of the Trans Alaska Pipeline System.
http://www.pipe-line.com/archive/archive_00-01/00-01_what-staff_A8.htm

Rense already has some of this info here...
http://www.rense.com/general14/willsomedare.htm

more here...

CHENEY'S GAS PLANT IN TURKMENISTAN
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=20739

if interested, more here possibally linking the whole thing to anthrax...
http://citypaper.net/articles/2002-06-06/pretzel.shtml
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Binladin Telecommunications Company
Jan2001
http://web.archive.org/web/20010124032300/http://www.saudi-binladin-group.com/btc-a.htm
Operating through the Inmarsat satellite network, ensures the international voice, fax and data networks are never out of range
Digital Telecommunications and Switching Systems - the world's leading supplier, providing products and services to telephone operating companies, corporations, governments, universities and other institutions in more than 90 countries world-wide


United Transport Company
Overland transportation and customs clearance based on Jeddah.
http://web.archive.org/web/20010303111919/www.saudi-binladin-group.com/dir-serv.htm

(one big questin about 911, was if the saudi group had anything to do with irridium satellites)
I have a technical background, and irridium never made sense to me. it was a TON of money, and looked like a white elephant coming.
It never made money.
They were made to give cell phone users ability to make calls ANYWHERE, in the jungle, or IN THE SKY ?

http://web.archive.org/web/20010119072400/www.saudi-binladin-group.com/btc.htm
Saudi Binladin Group is also a partner in the Iridium Project which will ultimately provide mobile phone users with a global communication facility.
See the companies they represent. Saudi Binladin Group is also a partner in the Iridium Project which will ultimately provide mobile phone users with a global communication
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current...

www.active8solutions.com = [ 65.61.216.123 ] Registrant:
Active 8 Solutions
3193 Wexford Walk Dr.
Box 123
Smyrna Georgia 30080
US
Domain name: ACTIVE8SOLUTIONS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Schnyder Aaron aschnyder@charter.net
In2net Network Inc. IN2NETWORK (NET-65-61-192-0-1)
65.61.192.0 - 65.61.255.255
Doteasy Technology Inc. IN2NET-65-61-216-0 (NET-65-61-216-0-1)
65.61.216.0 - 65.61.216.255

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INTERNAL LINKS:

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Bush 1 Carlyle Bin Laden Ties

Prince Turki Al Faisal Al Saud - 9/11 Encyclopedia

Lumsden, Philip - 9/11 Encyclopedia

Connect the Dot-coms  Saudi Binladin Group - MURDER ?

Connect Business as usual for Bin Laden group

www.saudi-binladin-group.com

VHJ: Transcript of BBC Expose on Bush, bin Laden and the Carlyle Group

Woodward writes Rice gave brushoff to CIA tenet on Bin Laden pre 911

CarlyleGroup - 9/11Encyclopedia

Iran/Contra Connections to 9/11

Frank Carlucci - 9/11 Encyclopedia

Something's Rotten in Dubai: The Ports Deal UAE

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Iridium phones suddenly in high demand for rescue efforts


ENRON LINKED TO SAUDI BIN LADEN GROUP!

Bush, Bin Laden, Bechtel and Baghdad

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