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MORET:
If they were in Bradley Fighting Vehicles, they’re coming
home with rectal cancer from sitting on ammunition boxes.
The young women are reporting terrible problems with
endometriosis. That’s the lining of the uterus
malfunctioning, and
they just bleed and bleed and bleed.
Some of them have uterine cancer — 18 and 19 and 20 year
olds. The Army will not even diagnose it. They send
them back to the
battlefields. They won’t treat them or diagnose
them. A group of 20
soldiers pushed from Kuwait to Baghdad in 2003 in all the
fighting.
Eight of those 20 soldiers have malignancies.
ICONOCLAST: Does exposure to depleted
uranium effect their psychological background when they come home?
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MORET: Depleted uranium are these particles
that form at very
high temperatures. They are uranium oxides that are
insoluble. They
are at least 100 times smaller than a white blood cell, so when the
soldiers breathe, they inhale them.
The particles go through the nose, go through the olfactory and into
the brain, and it messes up their cognitive abilities, thought
processes.
It damages their mood-control mechanism in the brain.
Four soldiers at Fort Bragg came back from Afghanistan, and
within two months, those four had murdered their wives. This
is part
of the damage to the brain from the radiation and the particles.
The soldiers from Gulf War I in a group of 67 soldiers who
came back, they had DU in their equipment, in their clothes, in their
bodies, in their semen, and they had normal babies before they went
over there to war.
They came back, and the VA did a study. Of 251 Gulf War I
veterans in Mississippi, in 67 percent of them, their babies born after
the war were deemed to have severe birth defects.
They had brains missing, arms and legs missing, organs
missing. They were born without eyes. They had
horrible blood
diseases. It’s horrific.
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If you want
to look at something, Life magazine did a photo essay which is still on
the Internet. It’s called "The Tiny Victims of
Desert Storm." You
should look at that — oh, my God, the post-Gulf War babies
playing with
their brothers and sisters who are normal.
Basically, it’s like smoking crack, only you’re
smoking
radioactive crack. It goes straight into the blood
stream. It’s
carried all throughout the body into the bones, the bone marrow, the
brain. It goes into the fetus. It’s a
systemic poison and a
radiological poison.
ICONOCLAST: What about the people in the
United States that are here? You say that DU is being mixed
and spread globally?
MORET: Yes, it’s being mixed
globally. We’re getting secondary
smoke. It’s the secondary smoke effect.
You know the people who
inhabit a room with smokers? They are getting that secondary
smoke,
and so are we.
ICONOCLAST: Is that secondary smoke getting
thicker as we speak?
MORET: Yeah, the concentration of the
depleted uranium particles in the atmosphere all around the globe is
increasing.
There are indications that the U.S. will go in June and bomb
the heck out of Iran. We’re monitoring the U.S.
Army ammunition
factories. They have very large orders for those huge bunker
buster
bombs that have 5,000 lbs. of DU in the warhead.
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ICONOCLAST: So the prognosis for America
isn’t really good?
MORET: No, it’s really bad.
ICONOCLAST: And if this continues then?
MORET: It’s going to kill off the
world’s population. It
already is, and it doesn’t just effect people. It
effects all living
systems. The plants, the animals, the bacteria. It
effects
everything.
ICONOCLAST: So the things that we eat for
instance, if they
have DU in them, then we’ll just get it in our systems, and
so we’re
polluting the oceans, so that could effect all marine life?
MORET: Yes, it’s in the air,
water, and soil. The half-life of DU, Uranium 238, is 4.5
billion years the age of the Earth.
ICONOCLAST: With the damage that’s
been done to this point, can we turn back? We can’t
clean it up?
MORET: There’s no way to clean it
up. What happens is these
tiny particles float around the Earth. There are still
plutonium and
uranium floating around the Earth from bomb testing.
These particles are so tiny that molecules bumping into them
keep them lofted in the air, and so the only way for them to get out of
the atmosphere is rain, snow, fog, pollution, which will clear them out
of the air and deposit them in the environment.
What happens is the surface of these particles gets wetted by the
moisture in the air.
They come down and land on stuff and stick to it like a glue.
You can’t ever get the particles off whatever
they’re sticking
to because have you ever put a drop of water on a microscope slide and
then put another one on top of it? Can you pull
those apart?
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ICONOCLAST: No.
MORET: Okay, that’s the same
effect that happens to radioactive particles.
Once they are removed from the atmosphere, they stick to any surfaces
they land on.
In a way they are removed from circulation from the atmosphere.
You can’t wash them off.
If it keeps raining or they’re in a creek, you know, if
they’re
on rocks or stones or something in a creek, they won’t even
wash off.
You didn’t know it was this bad, did you?
ICONOCLAST: No, I knew it was bad, but I
thought it was fairly isolated.
MORET: No. What is over there (in
Iraq) is over here in about
four days. I don’t know if you followed
Chernobyl. That big bubble of
radiation went around and around the world, but this is dust.
It
becomes a part of atmospheric dust. Like the dust storm you
saw in
that photo, it goes everywhere.
ICONOCLAST: Is it in the upper levels of the
atmosphere or the lower levels?
MORET: It’s in lower orbital
space. They brought the Mir
spacecraft back down to Earth when they got done using it, and there
was something called a space midge which covered the electronics on the
outside of the spacecraft and protected it from radiation that comes
from the sun because electronics are real vulnerable to radiation.
They analyzed the surface of that space net and found uranium
and uranium decayed products which they said came from atmospheric
testing or burned up spacecraft with nuclear materials or nuclear
reactors on board.
Uranium can also come from supernovas, but they thought that
the most likely sources were atmospheric testing and the nuclear
materials we put in space.
ICONOCLAST: Essentially then,
you’re saying that we’re conducting a nuclear war.
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MORET: Yes, and that’s exactly
what it is. We’ve conducted
four nuclear wars since 1991. Yeah, these are nuclear wars.
DU is a
nuclear weapon.
ICONOCLAST: From the point of view of a
scientist, what needs to happen to correct this?
MORET: Well, we need to stop the use of
it. We’ve built an
international movement to stop the use, the manufacture, the storage,
the sales, and the deployment of depleted uranium weapons.
ICONOCLAST: Are the munitions we sell to
other countries contained with depleted uranium?
MORET: We have. In 1968 the first
depleted uranium weapons
systems that we found a patent for suddenly appeared in the U.S. patent
office.
It was for the Navy.
It was sort of a Gatling gun style weapon system that you mounted on
ships.
It rapidly fires like 2,500 bullets a minute.
It’s over 3,000 now.
They’ve improved the design.
Then in 1973, we gave depleted uranium weapons systems to the
Israelis and supervised their use. They used them in the
Arab-Israeli
war and completely wiped out the Arabs in five days. Then the
show was
on the road. That was the first actual battlefield
demonstration of
this new weapon system.
Hughes Aircraft developed the full-length system which is for
the Navy. That’s the Gatling gun system.
They still use it. That was
produced in 1974 and tested. Within six months the U.S.
government had
sold the DU weapons system to 12 entities which included many branches
of the U.S. military and other counties.
We’ve sold DU weapons systems to about — we
don’t know exactly for sure — it’s been
about 12 or 17 countries.
The good news is that normally such a weapons system that effective
would have been sold to 80, 100, or 120 countries by now.
But because of the radiological, biological, and environmental
hazard, countries were not only afraid to buy it, the ones who did buy
it are afraid to use it.
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Only countries that have used DU as weapon are Britain,
the U.S., and Israel
The only countries we know that have used DU are Britain, the U.S., and
Israel.
The United Nations in 1996 passed a resolution that depleted
uranium weapons are weapons of mass destruction, and they are illegal
under all international laws and treaties.
In 2001, the European Parliament passed a resolution on DU.
What happened is that the NATO forces went into Yugoslavia in
1998 and ’99 and flew 39,000 bombing runs and completely
bombed
Yugoslavia into radioactive rubble.
Germany and the U.S. made the most money on the destruction of
Yugoslavia, and they made sure that countries that didn’t
know about
the DU, that the peacekeepers from those countries like from Italy and
Portugal, were sent to the most contaminated regions in Yugoslavia.
Germans and Americans didn’t send their own troops into those
areas. They were in the least contaminated areas.
These poor soldiers from other countries came back and died
within weeks or in a couple of days or months. The parents in
Portugal
and Italy are furious and went to the Parliament and media, and there
was just a huge media storm of articles about DU.
The cat was out of the bag because of the 1998 NATO invasion
of Yugoslavia. The cat was out of the bag, but Japanese
troops have
been sent into Somawa. They’re self-defense
forces. It was the most
contaminated area where the heaviest fighting happened in
Iraq. We can
expect those soldiers to be really, really sick.
ICONOCLAST: What about Iraq
itself? What’s been done thus far?
MORET: It’s
uninhabitable. The whole country. Yugoslavia, Iraq,
and Afghanistan are completely uninhabitable.
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ICONOCLAST: But people live there, so
they’re going to live there suffering?
MORET: Well, you can see from the birth
defects and the illnesses that it is pretty severe.
Each year the number of birth defects and illnesses will rise
because of the total contamination levels in all living things will
increase because they are breathing that air and drinking water and
eating the food from contaminated soils.
It’s just a slow death sentence. The same with
Yugoslavia and Afghanistan.
Depleted uranium is a very, very, very effective biological weapon.
This is the primary purpose for using it.
Marion Falk (a retired chemical physicist who built nuclear bombs for
more than 20 years at Lawrence Livermore lab), who is the Manhattan
Project scientist I work with, taught me pretty much everything about
radiation and particles and DU.
Purpose is the kill, maim and disease the civilian
population
He said the purpose of weapons used by the military is not only
to injure and kill the enemy soldiers, but the purpose is to kill,
maim, and disease the civilian population because it reduces the
productivity of a country and pretty soon a lot of their resources are
going to be used for taking care of sick people.
They will have fewer and fewer healthy workers.
Of course, once you cause mutation in the DNA, that damage is
passed on to future generations of that affected person or animal or
plant.
DNA does not repair itself.
ICONOCLAST: So the mutations would be
probably destructive moreso than constructive.
MORET: Oh, the mutations are causing those
birth defects.
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ICONOCLAST: They’re not
evolutionary diseases?
MORET: No, they are evolutionary.
They are inherited by all
future generations and passed on. It’s like if you
have red hair and
all of your future generations will have that gene.
ICONOCLAST: So if I had a precondition to
heart disease because
of the radiation, then the generation that would come after me would
have the same problem?
MORET: Well, if you damage the cell or parts
of the cell or functioning of cells, that doesn’t necessarily
damage the DNA.
There are two kinds of damage: one damages the cells of the
living organism, and that may not be passed on, but if you damage the
DNA in the egg or the sperm, that is passed on to all future
generations.
ICONOCLAST: So the guys coming back from the
war, their sperm is probably going to be —
MORET: Damaged. Yes.
They also have depleted uranium in their
semen. When they’re intimate with their partners,
they internally
contaminate them with depleted uranium.
The women become sick themselves.
They have depleted uranium in their bodies, and there is something
called burning syndrome.
Just absolutely horrible.
You can read about it in an article by David Rose in the December
Vanity Fair. It’s on the Internet.
A friend of mine is the widow of a Canadian Gulf War veteran.
David Rose interviewed her, and she griped about the burning semen.
She said, "I had 20 condoms full of frozen peas in my freezer
at all times, and after we were intimate, I would insert one into my
vagina, and that is the only way I could bear the pain from the burning
semen."
And it goes through condoms, too.
ICONOCLAST: Gosh, durn!
MORET: Yeah, you should see the high school
classes when I talk about the burning semen and the internal
contamination.
The girls’ mouths go into little round Os, and the boys start
panicking because they’re like, "I’ll never get
sick!" (laughs)
The name of this article is "Weapons of Self-Destruction."
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ICONOCLAST: How much DU will it take to kill
off all known life on this planet?
MORET: The amount of radiation released is
certainly going to
have a very, very profound global impact, and we’re already
seeing
infant mortality increasing globally.
The fetus is the most susceptible to radiation damage because
all the cells are rapidly dividing, the limbs and the bodies
developing, so when you start introducing toxic chemicals and
radiation, it really damages the natural process of fetal development.
The reason they were able to convince the Senate to sign the
partial test ban treaty in 1963 was because of the increase in infant
mortality.
It had been dropping and declining two or three percent for
quite a long time each year because of better prenatal care and
educating mothers.
Infant mortality started going up after the bombs were dropped
on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, especially in the ‘50s when the
big bomb
testing started.
By 1963, it was really obvious that the bomb testing globally
was having a real impact on the unborn. They signed the
partial test
ban treaty.
Russia and the U.S. stopped atmospheric testing, and the infant
mortality rate started going down right away.
They’re going up again now.
This is global radioactive pollution, and how long it would
take to eliminate all life is something nobody knows, but the depleted
uranium is a very, very effective biological weapon.
There are two purposes for the military use of weapons.
One is to destroy the enemy soldiers, and the other, which is just as
important, is to destroy the enemy civilian population.
By causing illnesses and disease, long lingering illnesses really
impact the productivity and the economy of a country.
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It was
Chernobyl and other nuclear disasters that actually destroyed the
Soviet Union because the former Soviet Union is very, very sick from
all the radiation that was released.
They were much more sloppier than we were.
I have a World Health Organization world health survey which
they published in the Journal of American Medical Association last
June.
The impact of atmospheric testing is very, very apparent by
the percentage of population in each country they investigated for some
form of mental illness.
For instance, Japan is 8.8 percent. Nigeria is very low — 4.7
percent. They have almost no radiation in Nigeria.
In the Ukraine where they had the Chernobyl accident, it is
20.4 percent. Spain is at 9.2 percent. Italy is 8.2
percent. It’s
pretty low because they don’t have nuke plants.
France is 75 percent reliant on nuclear power, so you have mental
illness in 18.4 percent of the population.
Mexico is at 12.2 percent, and the United States is at 26.3 percent
— the highest rate of mental illness in the world.
And George Bush and his siblings were all exposed in utero to bomb
testing fallout in the United States.
He had a toddler sister who died of leukemia when she was about three.
I worked with a group called the Radiation And Public Health Project.
Their website is.
We are all radiation specialists, well-known scientists, and
independent scientists.
We’ve collected 6,000 baby teeth around nuclear power plants
and measured the radiation in them, and one of our members is the
neighbor of the women who worked with all of the Bush children,
including President Bush himself, because they had severe learning
disabilities.
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ICONOCLAST: How do we know that the Bush
children were exposed?
MORET: By the year of their birth.
The year they were carried by their mother.
You have to look at how much bomb testing material was released
into the atmosphere, and there’s a direct correlation to the
decline in
SAT scores for all teenagers in the U.S. to the amount of radiation
that was released into the atmosphere the year their mother was
carrying them.
These are delayed effects of radiation exposure in utero.
ICONOCLAST: So they were living in
Connecticut, but they were still feeling the effects of the radiation
in Nevada?
MORET: Two years ago the U.S. government
admitted that every
single person living in the United States between 1957 and 1963 was
internally exposed to radiation. So for any pregnant woman during those
years, her fetus was exposed.
ICONOCLAST: What type of radiation levels
are we talking about?
MORET: It’s low levels, and the
main pathways are drinking water and dairy products.
It even killed the baby fish in the Atlantic.
Strontium-90 is a man-made isotope that comes out of nuclear bombs and
nuclear reactors.
They measured the levels of strontium-90 in milk in Norway from
the 1950s up until the 1970s, and they measured the decline in the
fishing catch in that same period, and as the strontium-90 increased in
the milk in Norway, fishing catches declined.
By 1963, when the U.S. tested a nuclear bomb almost every day
(they did 250 tests in one year because the treaty was going to be
signed), the fishing catch declined by 50 percent.
In the Pacific, it declined 60 percent because there was Russian,
Chinese, French, and U.S. testing in the Pacific.
ICONOCLAST: So we’re still eating
those contaminated fish today. Has the genetic code been
changed?
MORET: The oceans are getting whatever is
getting rained down, snowed down, or fogged down from the atmosphere.
It’s getting into the oceans.
This big frog die-off, which is global, is certainly related to the
radiation in the rainwater.
It’s a global nuclear holocaust.
It effects all living things.
That’s why they call it "omnicide," which means it kills all
living things — the plants, the animals, the bacteria.
Everything.
ICONOCLAST: You think we ought to have the
Weather Channel
report on the current sand storm conditions in Iraq so we can prepare
four days in advance for the radiation?
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MORET: I’ll tell you what I did
when 9/11 happened.
I called all the doctors with Radiation And Public Health
Project, and I said, "Get out of town, and don’t come back
until it has
rained three times."
One lived 12 miles downwind from the Pentagon. She went out
on her balcony with her geiger counter. I said, "Get that
geiger
counter out of your purse."
We had just done a press conference in San Francisco, and I knew she
had it in her purse.
Well, the radiation levels were 8-10 times higher than background.
We called the EPA, HAZMAT, FBI, and said, "Get all those emergency
response workers suited up. They need to be protected."
Two days after 9/11, the EPA radiation expert for that region
called back and said, "Yup, the Pentagon crash rubble was radioactive,
and we believe it’s depleted uranium, but we’re not
worried about that.
It’s only harmful if it’s inhaled."
He said, "We’re worried about the lead solder in the
plane." Well, you
know what’s in Tomahawk missiles? They have
depleted uranium
warheads. The radioactive crash rubble contaminated with DU
is
evidence of a DU warhead.
ICONOCLAST: I did not think about that, but
going back to my
original question: Should the Weather Channel report for us
on the
toxic dust storms in Iraq?
MORET: But how could people get away from
them? These dust
storms are a million square miles. They’re huge,
and they come right
across the Atlantic, the Caribbean, and Texas coast line, and right up
the East Coast.
There are people who are going to leave the state every time
there’s a hurricane. It’s in the food,
drinking water, dairy products,
and then the problem with Uranium 238, which is 99.39 percent DU, is
that it decays in over 20 steps into other radioactive isotopes.
That’s why I call it the "Trojan Horse."
It’s the weapon that
keeps giving. It keeps killing. This is like
smoking radioactive
crack.
It goes right in your nose. It crosses the olfactory bulb
into your brain. It’s a systemic poison.
It goes everywhere.
These particles that form at very high temperatures —
5,000-10,000 degrees C — are nanoparticles. They
are a 10th of a
micron or smaller. A 10th of a micron is 100 times smaller
than a
white blood cell.
They get picked up in the lipids and probably the cholesterol
and go right through the cell membranes of the cell. They
screw up the
cell processes. They screw up the signaling between the cells
because
the cells all talk to each other and coordinate what they’re
doing. It
messes up brain function.
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ICONOCLAST: Do you know what Iraq was like
before the first Gulf War?
MORET: Iraq prior to the 1991 Gulf War was
the most advanced in the entire Middle East.
They had scrupulous databases of the health problems and
disease rates, which is why the U.S. bombed all of the offices in the
Ministry of Health.
We destroyed all those records so that a pre-Gulf War health
base could not be established to show how much these diseases have
increased.
This would concern the U.S. in terms of compensation for war crimes.
In these horrible U.N. sanctions, they (the Iraqis) could never get all
of the protocol medicine for the treatment of leukemia.
They (the U.N.) would say, "These steps of the leukemia treatment were
components in weapons, so you can’t have that."
They never gave the people the full proper protocols in the areas of
treatment they needed to get rid of the leukemia.
It hid the effects of the depleted uranium because the children were
starving.
They had malnutrition. They had the healthiest population in
the Middle East (prior to Gulf War I).
ICONOCLAST: Let’s talk about the
children of Iraq.
MORET: After the Gulf War, they had maybe
one baby a week born with birth defects in the hospitals in Basra.
Now they are having 10-12 a day.
The levels of uranium are increasing in the population every
year. Every day, people are eating and drinking while the
whole
environment is contaminated. Just what you’d
expect.
There are more babies born with birth defects, and the birth
defects are getting more and more severe. An Iraqi doctor
told me that
babies are being born now that are lumps of flesh. She said
that they
don’t have heads or legs or arms. It’s
just a lump of flesh.
This also happened to populations that were not removed from
islands in the Pacific when the bomb tests occurred.
Basically,
governments were using them as guinea pigs.
ICONOCLAST: So all the countries that were
equipped with nuclear weapons are guilty of those atrocities.
MORET: They were all doing it.
France, Russia. China, and the
U.S. And I’m not sure if Britain did bomb
testing. They were real low
key about it.
ICONOCLAST: Where are the radiation hot
spots in the United States?
MORET: In the United States, it would be
within a 100 miles of
nuclear power plants. We have 110 nuclear power plants in the
U.S. We
have the most of any country in the world, but only a 103 are
operating. Almost all of the entire East Coast.
What we did was we took government data from the Centers of Disease
Control on breast cancer deaths between 1985 and 1989.
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Breast Cancer
Anywhere from within a 100 miles of a nuclear power plant is where
two-thirds of all breast cancer deaths occurred in the U.S. between
1985 and 1989.
It’s also around the nuclear weapons laboratories.
That would be Los Alamos in New Mexico, the Idaho Nuclear
Engineering Lab in Idaho, and Hanford in Washington State, which is
where they got the plutonium for all the bombs.
They contaminated the entire Columbia River watershed and almost the
whole state of Washington.
It gets into the water and into the plants and into the vegetation.
If you eat clams or mussels or crabs or things like that, even
certain kinds of fish that eat off of the mud at the bottom of the
river, you have much higher levels of radiation in your tissues.
It depends on each person and on how healthy they are, but this man
from Washington State died suddenly.
He was in his late 40s.
They did an autopsy, and he was full of radioactive zinc.
They went, "Where in the world did he get this? It
only comes from nuclear bombs and nuclear reactors."
They studied his diet and discovered he loved to eat oysters.
They found out where he bought his oysters and found the oyster beds.
They were 200 miles off shore, from Washington State.
The radiation was being carried off out to sea from the coastline.
It was passing over this oyster bed.
The oysters were just gobbling them up.
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ICONOCLAST: What are the symptoms of DU
poisoning?
MORET: Soldiers on the battlefield have
reported a metallic taste in their mouth.
That’s the actual taste of the uranium metal.
Then within 24-48 hours, soldiers on the battlefield have reported that
they felt sick.
They start getting muscle aches, and they lose energy.
Some of them came back incontinent.
In other words, in adult diapers.
One woman reported that the first night home, she wanted to be intimate
with her husband, but she had absolutely no feeling.
She couldn’t feel anything from the waist down.
This particulate matter damages the neuromuscular system, the nerves;
it just goes everywhere.
And there’s no treatment for it.
These particles are very, very insoluble, so they can’t even
dissolve in body fluids, so they can be excreted from the body.
Then they keep releasing.
Even when uranium decays, it turns into another radioactive isotope.
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Shooting bullets until you die
So it’s a particle that just sits there shooting bullets
until you die.
Another problem is that soldiers have crumbling teeth.
Teeth just start falling apart.
The uranium replaces calcium in the calcium-phosphate structure of the
teeth.
Some have complained about grand mal seizures, cerebral palsy.
Some diseases reported at very high rates in Air Force and Army
soldiers are Parkinson’s disease, Lou Gehrig’s
disease, and Hodgkin’s
disease.
This is damage to the mitochondria in the cells and the nerves.
The mitochondria make all the energy for the body, so when you damage
mitochondria, another symptom is chronic fatigue syndrome.
There’s just not enough energy produced by the body to
function normally.
I found a study in the SanDia Nuclear Weapons Laboratory employee
newsletter in September 2003.
They are doing major studies in mitochondrial disfunction
related to Lou Gehrig’s, Hodgkin’s, and
Parkinson’s diseases for
veterans.
Since it’s at a nuclear weapon’s lab, they are
fully aware of the health damage.
ICONOCLAST: Tell me about the tests that
detect for DU in the body.
MORET: The chromosome test in the best
indicator.
It’s $5,000.
The urine test is a $1,000.
If you test positive with the urine test, you know you’re
contaminated.
If you test negative, it does not mean that you’re not
contaminated.
It just means that you may or may not be contaminated but
enough hasn’t dissolved in your blood stream to go through
your kidneys
to be excreted in your urine.
Anyone who goes now cannot avoid being contaminated.
Anyone! Anyone! Anyone!
Everyone who goes to the Middle East and Afghanistan will be
contaminated. The DU issue affects every single living thing
on this
planet. What else has that impact?
They have altered the genome for the entire planet forever
with this DU. The Pentagon people say, "You’re
exaggerating or you use
the uranium word to scare people."
I don’t care if people believe me or not.
All I can say is that over time what I am saying will actually be an
underestimation of the long term effects.
 A
Military Perspective
Interview with Dr. Doug Rokke, Ph.D, former Director of the U.S. Army
Depleted Uranium Project
http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/19news04.htm
A
Survivor’s Perpsective
http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/19news05.htm
http://www.iconoclast-texas.com/News/19news03.htm
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