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Alex Constantine

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HughManatee on Fri Dec-23-05 12:03 AM

Tonight I called into Pacifica Radio's Flashpoints
program when host Dennis Bernstein was talking to
journalists Robert Parry who did great Iran-Contra
reporting and Norman Soloman, author of "War Made
Easy: How Presidents and Pundits Keep Spinning Us to
Death."
I asked them why no 'progressive'
journalists mention the national security state media
institutions like the 1951 Psychological Strategy
Board and CIA control of the 'mainstream media' called
Operation Mockingbird exposed at the 1975 Church
Senate committee hearings, all for the purpose of
psychological warfare.
 But I forgot to mention the
8/05 release of the tapes and transcripts of NYC
emergency personnel hearing and seeing controlled
demolition of the WTC.
(Tapes are at
thememoryhole.org/911/fdny_dispatches.htm

Parry responded defensively saying he has mentioned this and
Soloman went on to talk about isolated instances of
war shilling.
The next caller mentioned examining
9/11 as an inside job for war and both Parry and
Soloman said they looked into it but "there was no
evidence to back it up," it just happened to coincide
with some power agendas...!!!!!!

I was HORRIFIED to hear them say this and kicked myself for not pointing
out the evidence while I was on the air. These are
supposed to be sharp journalists accustomed to seeking
out the penetralia of power, right?
Hmmm...
In this 1978 - repeat - 1978 interview with investigator Mae
Brussell by 'Conspiracy Digest' all of the last 30
years is quite accurately predicted. ?

Mae had discovered the gravity of cryptocracy and predicted
the fall of America into its own footprint just like
the TwinTowers.?
-HM
maebrussell.com/Mae%20Brussell%20Articles/C...


snip...

C.D.: How much conflict do you see in the ruling class?  Some
conspiriologists think it is all fake, a diversion.??

M.B.: The conflict in the ruling class is
between those who are elected and appointed to rule,
and those who are acting illegally to condition us for
the next war or series of wars.


Conspiracy Digest, Vol. III, No. 1.

INTRO:
Mae Brussell is a well known West Coast conspiriologist and
assassination researcher. As usual our questions are
framed not to win an argument and impress our
audience, but only to bring out the views of the
interviewee most fully and accurately. So please, no
letters this time chastising me for not arguing hard
enough. On the other hand, letters of substance are
welcome!

   C.D.: Personally, I no longer have any firm
prescriptions for social betterment. The study of
conspiracy seems to indicate that the laws of reality
give the dedicated conspirators the upper hand against
anyone with any version of social reform in mind.
Another way of looking at it is that evil has a better
feedback loop than good. The loot gained by conspiracy
puts power in the hands of a few conspirators who then
can undertake even vaster conspiracies to further
enhance their power. The fruits of "good" movements,
on the other hand, are widely dispersed among the
people rather than being concentrated and available
for further success.?   Perhaps this would be a good
question. Do you have any reaction?

   M.B.: Conspiracies and the centralization of power
in the hands of a few does present a problem when
those conspirators are not dedicated to social
reforms.
  There are also philosophical, literary,
and historical examples where evil does not have a
better feedback loop than good.
   The laws of
reality do not guarantee that power gained from force
and monopoly will be lasting or of any long range
value to those who have struggled to obtain that
power.
   Ralph Waldo Emerson's essay on Compensation
describes my views about evil, power, and the
attempted manipulations of mankind and nature:
   The farmer imagines power and place are fine
things. But the President has paid dear for his White
House. It has commonly cost him all his peace and the
best of his manly attributes. To preserve for a short
time so conspicuous an appearance before the world, he
is CONTENT TO EAT DUST BEFORE THE REAL MASTERS WHO
STAND ERECT BEHIND THE THRONE. ? 
 This law (of compensation) writes the laws of the cities and
nations. It is in vain to build or plot or combine
against it. Things refuse to be mismanaged long.
Though no checks to a new evil appear, the checks
exist and will appear. If the government is cruel, the
governor's life is not safe. If you tax too high, the
revenue will yield nothing. ?   The dice of God are
always loaded. Every secret is told, every crime is
punished, every virtue rewarded, every wrong redressed
in silence and certainty.
   David, the poet, was able to halt Goliath, the
giant. Remember Achilles' heel? Children love Popeye
and instant spinach. Power comes from many sources to
counteract evil.
   Evil has never had a better
feedback loop than good. The popularity of Star Wars
today has to do with the longing for heroes, the
triumph of good over evil, the FORCES of good winning.

   The CIA spent $26,000,000 tax dollars over a 25
year period with the express purpose of altering human
behavior, starting as early as 1947. All of this
budget was not for defensive purposes, but to erase
memories and to cause apathy at home. Dr. Jose
Delgado, Yale University, funded by Navy Intelligence
(our tax money again), specializes in electronically
controlling human beings. We are preparing for future
warfare robots. If power and evil provide such a good
feedback, why the necessity to worry about emotions
such as anxiety, guilt, or conscience?
   Power is temporary and illusive. It can be shattered by one
leak or piece of evidence. One slip of scotch tape
placed on the door latch at the Watergate Hotel,
Washington, D. C. was responsible for removing the
President, Vice-President, Attorney General, Secretary
of Commerce, top Presidential aides and attorneys. No
one has yet admitted who put the second tape back on
the door.

   Every person with illegal secrets to
hide has been bugged, followed, and blackmailed.
  The kinds of conspiracies I am talking about
pertain to political assassinations and their
cover-up.

   The fruits of good movements are too
widely dispersed. They receive no assistance from the
Federal Government.
 The FBI Cointel-Program and
the CIA's Operation Chaos have been breaking up
leftist type organizations and social-cultural
activities with a purposeful vengeance (again with our
tax dollars).
  Divide and conquer is the rule,
whether inside the prisons or at charitable meetings.
Anywhere people get together they are infiltrated.

  The ratio of agents and informants has been about
one provoceteur to five members of any given group.
 There has been a systematic effort to kill all
leaders whose awareness or activities interfere with
international oil interests or narcotics traffic.
  It has been alleged that the CIA-FBI combine, in
conjunction with the Defense Industrial Security
Command, has supported a school in Oaxaco, Mexico, for
professional assassins. This religious academy,
disguised as a missionary, was exposed in 1970 and
might be disbanded since that date. Albert Osborne,
alias John Howard Bowan, director and head
"missionary," accompanied Lee Harvey Oswald on his
trip to Mexico in September, 1962. Oswald, not an
assassin, was patsy for the men who killed President
John F. Kennedy.
  The killing of Kennedy was only
one of dozens or possibly hundreds of murders of
leaders around the world, or potential future leaders

  With this kind of worldwide organization in
operation, (funded by our tax dollars, sent through
various Church fronts around the country) how can any
good movements or leaders ever serve the people?


   C.D.: Do you think, then, that centralization of
power can be a good thing as long as the power is held
by persons selected by the people and dedicated to
what you consider to be a valid program of social
reform? ?   Doesn't power always corrupt? Aren't the
worst always attracted by the prospect of centralized
power? Wouldn't extreme decentralized power be the
solution to conspiracy?

  M.B.: Centralization of power is always dangerous.
What is valid social reform to one group, such as
Hitler's Germany, is genocide for others. ?   I have
to agree with Thomas Jefferson's thoughts about power,
"I have never been able to conceive how any rational
being could bring happiness to himself from the
exercise of power over others."

  You have to understand that my views about power and happiness are
not realistic or even possible. Utopian dreams of a
world without fear, killings, and unnecessary pains is
only a goal which makes every day a challenge, and
every hour worthwhile.   Yes, power corrupts.
The worst are attracted by centralized power. The solution
is for parents to avoid playing power trips on their
children, for the educators to stop playing power
games on the students, for the church to avoid power
and fear threats on the parishioners, and for the
government to halt dividing economic and ethnic groups
against each other.  Conspiracies are possible when
people have been conspired against from birth. If
parents, schools, church, and government divested
themselves of the games that increase their power, new
sources of energy and production would take their
place and do a much better job with what has to be
accomplished.


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C.D.: 
What is your attitude on the Right-Left dichotomy? 

From your writing I would presume that you
have a "left-wing" background and probably are
favorably disposed to socialism or "true" communism.
Could you describe your social-political ideals?
Everyone knows what Mae Brussell is against. Your
positive philosophy, on the other hand, would be news
to many of our readers.

   M.B.: My attitude on the Right-Left dichotomy
should not enter into or affect my research. When a
biologist looks at cancer cells in a microscope, they
are not Republican or Democratic or Socialist cells.
There is no right-left distinction in diseases. ?   I
examine autopsy reports, sworn testimony under oath,
Congressional Hearings, FBI, CIA, and other Government
documents, witness testimony, police reports, books,
articles, and unpublished manuscripts along with
newsletters.
  My conclusions about assassinations
and their cover-up are cross referenced and constantly
checked for changes or new information. ?   The FBI
and Los Angeles Police Department have photographs
labeled that prove ten or more bullets were fired in
the Ambassador Hotel the night Sen. Robert Kennedy was
killed.
Sirhan Sirhan's weapon only fires eight
shots.
 There is no indication or proof that any of
Sirhan's bullets went into Kennedy. The fatal shot
came from behind the Senator, into his head. A guard
from Lockheed, Thane Cesar, fired his gun that night

 The coat sleeve of Kennedy's was cut off and is
missing.   The ceiling panels, in the direction of
Cesar's bullets, are gone.   Sirhan Sirhan's weapon
was "sold" and is out of the state, probably
destroyed.  If the Republicans and the right-wing
did the killing and cover up, we should know. ?   If
the Democrats or Communists did the killing or
cover-up, we should know.  L.A. Chief of Police Ed
Davis, and former District Attorney Evelle Younger, at
the time of the cover-up, are both running for
Governor of California. The voters should be informed
if they were part of conspiracy to silence the murder
of a Senator and Presidential candidate.

  The voters must be informed about whoever is guilty. This
has nothing really to do with Right-Left.   There
are existing documents to prove the CIA-FBI was
planning the murder of Richard Nixon in 1972.
Conservative George Wallace was eliminated from the
1972 elections because of a near assassination.   I
want to know who is killing Republicans or
Conservatives as much as I want to know who is killing
President John F. Kennedy, Sen. Robert Kennedy,
Malcolm X, Rev. Martin Luther King, or hundreds of
others less known: witnesses to these murders or near
murders.  

 Everyone doesn't know what Mae Brussell
is against. If I tell you what I am against, you can
deduce or know what I am for.  I am against the
planned political assassinations by our Intelligence
and Defense agents. The CIA-FBI-DIA and DISC, Defense
Industry Security Command were set up originally to
protect citizens of the USA. They became their own
judges and juries, private servants of corporations
with investments at home and abroad.   I am against
the constant destruction of evidence in criminal
matters and political assassinations. Prime witnesses
are murdered before or after testifying. Diaries are
forged and planted in obvious places. Doubles are
created to confuse. The Police Departments manipulate
facts in cooperation with conspirators.   I am
outraged that our judicial system since 1947 has been
patterned after Nazi Germany. Patsies are dead or
locked away. The assassins walk the streets or leave
the country, "home free."  I am against using the
Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, Earl Warren, to
cover up the assassination of President Kennedy. When
the highest court is corrupt, there is no hope at
local levels.  I am against allowing the CIA to
spend $25,000,000 since 1947 for the express purpose,
as stated before, to alter our behavior.

Is the State supreme over individuals? Who owns or controls our minds?  
Why was CIA Director Allen Dulles allowed
to order 100,000,000 LSD tablets? Were one half the
U.S. population going to receive their doses? What
gives the CIA and Pentagon the right to define normal,
or to determine what is National Security? Are we
being drugged through food, water, and supplied with
chemicals so we become slaves and robots? Where is all
the cancer coming from? Why the preoccupation with
death?
  Why is the U.S. Government in the business
of creating a "Psyche-civilized" world? Who is
ordering the ultrasonic waves to lower brain waves of
cities' populations to an alpha state, leaving
citizens susceptible to mass propaganda and hypnotic
suggestion? These facts have been confirmed by
researcher Walter Bowart in 1977. I learned about the
project years ago.

   I am against the mass media,
CBS, ABC, NBC, UPI, and AP being used by Washington
D.C. since WWI, and by the CIA since WWII as pure
propaganda tools. The so-called liberal New York Times
and Washington Post would make Adolf Hitler proud.
Notice that in all the Washington Post accolades about
Watergate exposures, they never delved into the
massive evidence surrounding the murder of Mary Jo
Kopechne, the shooting of George Wallace, the Howard
Hughes connections, or the murder of J. Edgar Hoover,
the planned riots for Miami in 1972, the assassination
plans for Richard Nixon through both the San Diego
Secret Army Organization and the Andrew Topping arrest
in New York. The media are cover-up artists. They
allow assassins or would-be-assassins to fade away.

  One thing is certain about all these matters. The
laws of nature are such that certain truths are going
to come out. It is only a matter of time.
There is no den in the wide world to hide a rogue.
Commit a crime. You cannot recall the spoken word, you
cannot wipe out the foot track, you cannot draw up the
ladder as to leave no inlet or clue.
SOME DAMNING CIRCUMSTANCE ALWAYS TRANSPIRES.
 The laws and substances of nature become penalties to the thief.

• Ralph W. Emerson "Compensation"

   My positive philosophy is very simple. I believe
there is in each of us a potential for peace and
harmony. A few power-mad perverts dictate orders that
must be challenged. They are going against the laws of
nature.
   A family and society that does not care
for its infants with love and affection will create
and does produce mad bombers. The source of this peace
and harmony is within the family unit, not with
Government agents or law enforcement. Without love in
the home there is never quiet in the community,
cities, or around the world.
   There are ways to
counteract the evil being purposely planned. Study
history. Separate fears and prejudices from facts.
Recognize facts from propaganda. Invest energy in
fighting for what you believe in. Analyze harder where
we are going and what you are doing about it. What do
you really believe in? How much do we care?

   C.D.: Where can our readers get information on
Walter Bowart's research on the mind control uses of
ultra-sonic waves and micro-waves?

    M.B.: Walter Bowart's book "Operation Mind
Control" will be published in the Spring, 1978.

 Bowart's allegations about the CIA using
ultrasonic waves on the human brain to control the
behavior pattern of entire cities confirms information
I received in 1974 about the same project.
  A reliable source of information told me that a radio
tower and a tall bank tower in San Francisco were
going to extend a beam to have virtual radio control
of that entire city. He informed me that the radio
frequencies would make meditation impossible. The
radio towers were being utilized for future control of
our minds.
 The same week that I received this
information, an article in the Los Angeles Times
appeared mentioning the use of radio beams over large
cities to control the population. 

    C.D.: CONSPIRACY DIGEST has often propounded the
theory that the Right-Left political-economic spectrum
is an artificial concoction of the ruling
class/conspiracy that creates a "heads I win tails you
lose" situation for the ruled class. Isn't the choice
between Communism and Fascism only a choice in style
of tyranny? Are you familiar with Antony Sutton 's
Wall Street series of books that documents that both
Nazism and Soviet Communism were financed largely by
the same Wall Street cabal whose interest was in
creating the conditions for big government favoritism
as opposed to laissez-faire competition?

    M.B.: The choices between Fascism and Communism
are not our ONLY alternatives. Tyranny, by any name,
isn't the only solution.? 
 I am familiar with Antony Sutton's books and own a few.
 Naziism and Soviet Communism were financed by Wall Street Cabals.
They were NOT FUNDED TO SUPPORT COMMUNISM.
  Money was poured in the USSR and behind the Iron Curtain for the
purpose of funding future uprisings and encouraging dissidents.
  Nazi agents are behind part of the KGB and MKD.
  Just as Wall Street poured money in
Russia after WWI, Allen Dulles, attorney for the Wall
Street Cabal, then Director of the CIA, funded Adolf
Hitler's Chief of Nazi-Eastern Intelligence with
$200,000,000 (our tax dollars once again). Gehlen was
paid for his agents behind the Iron Curtain and for
Cold War - Hot War purposes. This money does not go
for Communism, but anti-communism even though it is
sent inside Communist territory.

   Marina Oswald's
background was White Russian aristocracy. Marina has
overwhelming links to the CIA, Defense Industry, and
General Reinhard Gehlen's agents through the CIA/Greek
Orthodox Church. Her membership in the Communist
Komsomol Organization was a leftist front that didn't
fool the State Department or violently Anti-Communist
Rescue Commission that met Lee and Marina in New York
City.

  The right-left political and economic
spectrum is a farce. Howard Hughes Summa Company, the
South Korean KCIA, Hughes Medical Institute, and other
similar funding front operations have bought our
Congress, Republicans as well as Democrats. Those that
can't be bought are blackmailed. 

    C.D.: On numerous occasions you refer to the
Buckley school of conservatives and his youth wing,
Young Americans for Freedom, as connected to
CIA/ruling class dirty tricks and even the Kennedy
Assassination. Few conspiracy buffs would dispute the
CIA-Buckley-Establishment connection. Of course,
Buckley is death on conspiracy theory, which fails.
His favorite target is "paranoids." 

   What do you
think of the conspiracy-minded right such as the
Liberty Lobby and the John Birch Society? No doubt you
differ with their theories, but do you think they are
largely sincere? Or are they black propaganda outlets
for the Establishment? Or like many other
organizations are they simply infiltrated and used
from time to time in specific black propaganda
campaigns? In one of your tapes you seemed to imply
that George Schuler's American Opinion attack on
Malcolm X contained outright lies and was timed to
coincide with Malcolm's assassination. Comments? 

    M.B.: William Buckley's favorite target may be
paranoids. Paranoia is a psychological diagnosis
applied to a disease of the mind. Buckley is hardly
any psychiatrist. He is a useful media showcase and
propaganda machine. 

 When Buckley states his
opinions in writing or on the air, he never prefaces
remarks or articles by providing facts about his CIA
days with E. Howard Hunt. Few people know that
Buckley's family fortune came from Pantipec Oil
Company. E. Howard Hunt and George DeMohrenschildt,
Oswald's CIA baby-sitter, both worked under Warren
Smith. Smith was President of Buckley's Pantipec
Oil.?   Buckley not only worked with E. Howard Hunt in
the CIA, but formed the notorious YAF with Douglass
Caddy, co-worker in the CIA office of Mullen and Co.
of Watergate fame.

 Members of the YAF were brought
from U.S. Military Intelligence in Germany to the
Dallas-Ft. Worth area in the fall of 1962. Their
object was to infiltrate and take over this
conveniently formed new organization. Orders went from
Larry Schmidt, first to arrive, that all members had
to be in Dallas before JFK arrived ... for their
briefings and roles to be played. There is more to the
Buckley-CIA-YAF-Caddy connections than time allows
here.?   Liberty Lobby and the John Birch Society
accumulate interesting facts. Their numbers are
correct, but the conclusions can't be proven and are
in error. 

Jimmy Carter sent a message into the new
spacecraft. He wrote that "we human beings are still
divided into nation states, but these states are
rapidly becoming a single global civilization."

 The Birch Society and Liberty Lobby would claim
this is proof of "one world" conspiracy of communism
and the communists are winning their goals. On the
other hand, my assessment forces me to believe the
Bormann Brotherhood exists. Hitler's goal to rule the
world through satellites and weapons is working. We
are moving into the Nazification of planet earth.

   Carter's Human Rights issue is a sham. He scolds
the USSR. We support and fund South Africa, Argentina,
Chile, Brazil, South Korea, Nicaragua, Iran, feudal
Middle-East countries with no trials and much torture.

 George Schuler's attack upon Malcolm X, published
in American Opinion, Feb. 1973, argues that it would
be better to memorialize Benedict Arnold, a known
traitor, than Malcolm X.
  Malcolm X was never a traitor to the USA.  
 Schuler's put down on Malcolm begins by stating
Malcolm X was once a pimp, dopepeddler,
ex-convict who served ten years for robbery.

  He fails to mention the murder of Malcolm's
father, the causes of his hatred and poverty, the
reasons blacks get into crime. Schuler doesn't praise
Malcolm X for changing his ways, for his eloquent
self-education, for his published lectures and
writings, for his ability to raise himself above the
gutter to become an inspiration for many people.

  White racists use Black fools and Jewish
apologists for much of their dirty work.
  The anti-semitic YAF - John Birch Society wanted to place
an ad, "Wanted for Treason," with a black border, into
the newspapers the day JFK was assassinated in Dallas,
Texas. Members of the Birch Society paid for the ad.
Neo-Nazi Christians wrote the ad. Whose name was at
the bottom, in the newspaper Nov. 22, 1963? Jew boy
Bernard Weissman. Why his name? Weissman testified
before the Warren Commission that they wanted his name
"because he was Jewish." Why did they need a Jewish
name identified with the death of JFK? Because another
Jew, Jack Rubenstein (Ruby), who always worked with
the oil millionaire anti-Semites, and wanted their
approval, was also going to be utilized to silence the
patsy. No other members of the YAF were asked to come
before the Warren Commission. Why not? 

   CD: A number of conspiracy researchers are
suspicious of the U.S. Labor Parry and NCLC as being
funded by powerful governments or private interests.
They seem to promote some of your conspiracy theories
such as your interpretation of the Symbionese
Liberation Army kidnapping of Patty Hearst. What do
you think, is Lyndon LaRouche for real? We find it
suspicious that a new world Central Bank is the
linchpin of his program. Central Banks and their power
to create money (power) by slapping ink on paper have
always been the primary tool of ruling classes. What
is your opinion of the money question?

   M.B.: The U.S. Labor Party always blames the CIA
and Rockefeller for everything that is wrong.

   Maybe they are hitting the top dogs. It is hard to
argue that one. 

   However, the CIA and the
Rockefellers can't do it alone. The USLP praises
Gerald Ford as a fine man. Ford was a cover-up artist
for the Warren Commission. His crime of lies about
Oswald in his book and the cover-up of hard evidence
make him guilty of crimes worse than Nixon was charged
with. Ford covered up the killings of Kennedy, Officer
J. D. Tippit, and the murder of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Ford brought neo-Nazi G. Gordon Liddy to Washington,
D.C. to work in the Treasury Dept. Ford pardoned Nixon
because he was guilty of the same charges, cover-up of
conspiracies. 

  The NCLC never uses documents that
prove the Defense Industry Security Command, Division
V of the FBI, and other agencies had a part in the
assassinations and conspiracies. ?   They were and are
not interested in assassinations inside the USA.

  Political murders determine who will become head
of the Pentagon, Marines, Airforce, Navy, FBI, CIA,
Treasury Dept., etc.   Financial policies, national
and international, are controlled by corporations and
individuals to make up these multinational
nation-state empires. It is the systematic and always
planned murders that control their financial
investments. I want to know who is murdering. The NCLC
speak of the condition. They can't make a proper
diagnosis without examining the deaths. 

 I agree with the NCLC that terrorism is being funded by the
right. This has been an historical truth, a technique
used by the Czar, then brought to Germany for the
Nazis. The SLA is the CIA. It was formed to
infiltrate the Bay Area left-wing movements and to
test mind control drugs. 

 Lyndon LaRouche never
writes about Ronald Reagan, Robert Maheu, Howard
Hughes, Paul Laxault, the Summa Company, the Hughes
Medical Institute in Florida, or others who are the
opposite side of the Rockefeller coin. There is a
battle going on between the warfare industries and war
machine and the Eastern Wall Street gang. The NCLC
knows the names of some of the players. They
conspicuously omit others. Chase Manhattan Bank is
named in Solidarity. Bank of America is never
fingered. 

My opinion on the money question could
fill your entire issue. Profits are obtained by
monopolizing what we need; oil, coal, water,
transportation, minerals, gas, food, health, homes,
entertainment, and communications (phones).

 Profits are made from what we don't need; drugs,
chemicals, tobacco, narcotics, gambling, prostitution,
kidnapping, bank robberies, white collar crimes,
hijacking, weapons, overcosts, guns, warfare
machinery. 

  Murders and assassinations that I study
pertain to those killings that served some purpose
involving future financial gains that would not have
occurred without those deaths. If the electoral system
were REALLY FREE to allow people to vote for those
representatives who could alter their lives and
pocketbooks, the profits in the hands of a few would
be considerably reduced. 

  If the Judicial system really worked, there would be less crimes and less
payoffs for murdering.  Is money the root of all
evil?  It comes pretty close.  For a given salary,
the head and fingers of SLA leader Donald DeFreeze
were cut off before his body was sent to Ohio. ?   Who
paid for the injections that Jack Ruby and Martha
Mitchell received? What laboratory manufactured the
substance? 

 What profits were made from the LSD
given to Patty Hearst while in a closet 45 days?
?   How were the car accidents of Murray Chotiner and
Clay Shaw financed?  What did it cost to cover up
the fatal plane crash of CIA money bagwoman Dorothy
Hunt at the height of Watergate?
 How much was the
telephone bill from New York City to Chicago when CBS
ordered the cremation of Michelle Clark, victim on
Dorothy Hunt's plane along with 45 others?   Were
Jack Ruby's debts of $40,000 to IRS before the Kennedy
assassination automatically paid when he obliged and
shot Lee Harvey Oswald?
  How much tax money went to
fund doubles for Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan Sirhan,
Donald DeFreeze and James Earl Ray? 

  Where are the
bankers who are funding violence? Are we paying for
all this, the murders, the expensive and lengthy
trials, and the silence money, from our earned tax
money?
 Who paid the hospital bills in Colorado for
Ditta Beard, ITT secretary, when she embarrassed
President Richard Nixon?
   The important crises in
America are what we are doing and what we are allowing
to happen. Fascism isn't located in Bank names or
bank titles. It is what we are doing to people in
front of our eyes.  According to the New York City
Health Department figures during 1976, murder was
number 1 cause of death for ages between 15-24. MURDER
IS WINNING OVER DRUG ABUSE, CANCER, DISEASES, OR ANY
OTHER CAUSE.
I don't care as much about the
banking houses as I do about where money is being
abused and wasted. If we were ever to solve these
crimes, we could locate which banking houses were
behind the plans 

 CD: From listening to your tapes, I seem to detect
that you believe that the Bildeberger-CIA-CFR "free
world" Establishment ruling class is Anglo-Saxon/White
Racist. How do you square this theory with the
apparent pro-minority attitude of the Establishment's
kept liberals and think tank/foundations? Left-cover?
Incitement to backlash?  

 How do so many of Jewish
descent become prominent in government and finance if
the ruling class is still White Racist? How do you
account for the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Schiffs,
Kissingers, etc.?

   M.B.: The Bildebergers, CIA, CFR establishment
ruling class is basically Anglo-Saxon White Racist.
There are a few Jewish showpieces allowed on the
fringe for entertainment or media coverage.
  Racism in the USA is everywhere, in every prison, police
department, and so-called peacemaking organizations

  The Control of Candy Jones by Donald Bain tells
how a New York model was taken by the CIA, injected
with sodium pentathol, and hypnotized. Candy was then
taught to hate Blacks, Jews, and Italians. Why? Why
were our tax dollars (I keep repeating this because it
makes me furious that we are funding these crimes)
used to further hatred? How many more Candy Joneses
were taught to hate? Candy joined the CIA to deliver
messages and ended up with two personalities inside
her head.

  There is no pro-minority attitude on the
part of the Establishment. That is so foolish that I
wonder what kind of vacuum you are coming from.
Blacks, Mexicans, Jews, and Indians are not part of
the mainstream of white USA. They are on the lowest
fringe

  A few Jews such as the Rothschilds,
Warburgs, and Schiffs are always the token names for a
gentile society. They do not represent assimilation or
a symbol of Jew-Christian solidarity.
  Henry Kissinger is a different story. Kissinger was
developed by the U.S. Army Intelligence following
World War II. Kissinger worked in
counter-intelligence. Many Christian agents were
assuming names of Jews killed in the concentration
camps.

  How is it possible that Jewish Henry
Kissinger became the darling protégé of the
Rockefeller, Exxon, Standard Oil?
  Kissinger has been photographed kissing Anwar Sadat in Egypt.
 Sadat has been described as part of Hitler's Nazi
brotherhood.
   Would oil magnates, with their
anti-Semitic clubs and multimillion investments, allow
Jew-Kissinger to make deals and contracts with oil
giants in the Middle-East? ?   Why does the Shah of
Iran, a Moslem, work with Kissinger so well?

  Kissinger put Nazis into power in Greece, Brazil,
Chile. They love him. When Hitler's $400,000,000 cash
went into Argentina, did they know that Kissinger
would be heading our State Department and National
Security Council?
 No Jew would be allowed to be in
charge of the Pentagon, National Security of the
United States. The CIA is a racist organization.
   All of this is impossible!!! Kissinger's Jewish
cover conceals the Rockefeller and Wall Street bankers
who are directing him. 

   C.D.: Isn't it possible that all racial-ethic
issues are simply manipulated to keep the ruled class
fighting among themselves? It seems incredible to me
that men (or women) with the intelligence (if evil
intelligence) to conspiratorially rule nations (and
maybe even the world) would be so petty-minded as to
be racists. What is your reaction?

  M.B.: Racial and ethic issues are not manipulated
to keep the ruled class fighting among themselves.
Racism is taught from an early age. White men and
women fear they will lose their jobs, and also lose
their possessions in a competitive market with
minorities.

  There must have been a lot of anger
accumulated in blacks after slavery which the white
man feared might become unleashed. The way to control
this situation was and is by continuing hatreds,
getting more police, rigging the courts to keep
minorities locked up, send narcotics in the ghetto for
submission, exclusion from the labor unions and labor
market, and many other techniques. You know what they
are.

    C.D.: I agree that race prejudice exists to one
degree or another at most levels of U.S. society.
However, it seems to me that the majority working
classes are the most racist because they fear
competition for jobs from Blacks and Mexicans.
 The ruling class, especially the Eastern Wall Street gang
that controls the "liberal" CBS/ABC/NBC/New York
Times/Washington Post, really seems to take the side
of minorities. Is this just fake propaganda to rake in
minority votes?

    M.B.: The majority of the working classes are not
the most racist against each other. Competition for
jobs between Indians, Blacks and Chicanos is caused by
a racist power structure in this country that refuses
to allow jobs in the first place. 

 Labor Unions
exclude minorities. Medical schools and law schools
could be increased by the hundreds instead of
bickering over a particular student's grades.
  IQ tests have been proven to be racist, thereby dropping
off otherwise qualified students.
 Every white doctor that receives $100,000 a year could earn
$25,000 and allow three blacks to also earn the same
amount.  By keeping minorities out of professions,
except entertainment and athletics, the white
community can keep their residential areas white,
their schools white, their churches white, and
perpetuate the racism. There is no need for fences or
ID cards as in South Africa. Law Enforcement,
Sheriffs, and government agencies such as the FBI,
CIA, NSA, DIA, DISC are predominantly white.
   We could write an entire issue of CONSPIRACY DIGEST about
our differences regarding CBS, ABC, NBC, New York
Times, and Washington Post.   Where do you ever get
the label "liberal" for these people?  
How can you possibly say they take the side of minorities?
 When? Where? How?  

I subscribe to these newspapers and want to puke. I have boycotted major network news
coverage since I studied political assassinations
because of their lies, distortions, half truths,
insinuations, and massive cover-ups. ?   The United
States press doesn't fake propaganda. They don't even
appeal to minorities. To hell with minority votes.
These maniacs support military dictatorships and
fascism the USA instituted since World War II. They
treat the CIA and heads of state as if they were some
kind of royalty instead of the war criminals they
really are 

   C.D.: Several right-wing authors have theorized
that the main conflict in the world is or was the
battle between Wasp and Jewish financiers. Or, more
simply, that the history of the 2Oth Century is
primarily Rockefeller (Standard Oil) vs. Rothschild
(Royal Dutch Shell) bottle to control governments and
resources. Do you think there is anything to theories?
  What do you think about the Cowboy-Yankee War by
Carl Oglesby? Your research would seem to support the
theory that Nixon as an agent of the new wealth
"Cowboy" capitalist faction (Hughes?) was finally done
in by old wealth "Yankee" capitalist faction
(Rockefeller-Rothschild) at Watergate 

   M.B.: The main conflict in the world is not between
Wasp and Jewish financiers.
   The battle of Cowboy
vs. Yankee, Carl Oglesby's theories, are
oversimplified. There is no way to mark off
geographical boundaries or to separate fighting
factions into such categories. ?   What we are
experiencing are a series of revolutions taking place
at the same time. Some of them are political. Others
are cultural and social.

   While these changes have
been occurring in the 20th century, the old feudal
monopolies, economically dependent upon empires, have
been grasping for control of sources of power and
wealth (listed earlier as sources of profit).
  Three good books that describe the origins for our
current moral and financial bankruptcy are The Great
Conspiracy by Michael Sayers and Albert E. Kahn,
Merchants of Death by H. C. Egglebrecht, and Weimar
Republic, Clandestine Rearmament by E. J. Gumbel.
   Following World War I, the allied armies were
afraid to disarm German militarism because of fear
that Bolshevism was spreading and might go throughout
Europe

  The solution was the secret, clandestine
army, Secret Police SS, and a series of over 400
murders that altered the face of Germany. ?   U.S.
Corporations and Wall Street, along with France and
England, began arming Germany.
  World War I had
mobilized 66,103,164 men. 37,494,186 were killed.
Indirect costs were $151,000,000,000. Direct costs
were $208,000,000,000.
  The propaganda myth of the
"menace of Bolshevism" put Nazis in power. Adolf
Hitler, hypnotized front man for the warfare
industries and corporations, was to rid Europe of
Bolshevism

   When World War II was over, and the
Communists were still very much alive,
 the SAME CORPORATIONS AND MULTINATIONAL COMPANIES THAT ARMED
GERMANY AFTER WWI...
sent the Nazis and war criminals
with their money, counterfeit or otherwise, into the
USA, Middle East, Asia, Africa, and South America.
   Allen Dulles, attorney for Wall Street, made the
arrangements for the Nazis' exit. He became the first
director of the CIA in 1947, now patterned after the
illegal rearming of the Weimar Republic.
 All of the divisions and decoys we fall into, all the
categories of conflicts, never follow history or
documents day by the day to see why we are having so
many assassinations and cover-ups.
 642 Nazis were brought to our defense industries, universities, and
hospitals from 1945- 1952 under Project Paperclip.

 World War II cost 80,000,000 deaths. The cost went
up. The rearming for World War III began as early as
1945 when the decision was made to protect the doctors
and scientists Hitler used and to continue their
experimentations and weapons systems in the USA

  The real battle now is whether or not it is too
late to stop this country from going Fascist.  If
Arab investors, funded by Nazis, withdraw their
savings from U.S. banks, the USA will become instantly
bankrupt.
  Nazi General Reinard Gehlen had the
solution for conquered USSR territory.   Gehlen was
going to turn 50 million Russians into slaves "in
accordance with Aryan racial principals, to become sub
humans."    Some "forty million Soviet Citizens would
be eliminated by natural means, namely famine." This
is the same Gehlen that Allen Dulles provided
$200,000,000 of our tax dollars. Yes! Add it up. Are
we getting our money's worth?
(Gehlen, Spy of the Century, E. H. Cookridge)
  It is easier to understand droughts, famines, terrorism, new kinds of
diseases, rare cancers, mind control experiments,
stock manipulations, labor strikes and other
unpleasant "accidents" of nature in the USA after
studying the history of Nazism 

  C.D.: How much conflict do you see in the ruling
class? Some conspiriologists think it is all fake, a
diversion.   

M.B.: The conflict in the ruling class
is between those who are elected and appointed to rule, 
and thosewho are acting illegally to condition us for the next
war or series of wars. ?   We are identical to Germany
in 1932. Salvadore Allende had to put up with strikes
and the raging of the Chilean citizens who turned out
to be paid by the CIA (over 8 million dollars to
disrupt his country).   Nothing is natural today.
Billions are going into creating divisions, terror, to
make headlines, to spread confusion and fear.
  If any officials come along with independence or
suggestions they are killed, blackmailed, ignored,
surreptitiously drugged, paid off, or bugged. To make
changes today is to enter into an obstacle course.
  The Intelligence Community and those people doing
all this manipulating for their power and wealth are
moving against the laws of nature. Something must
give. Our institutions should be re-examined.
Individuals must come forward with enough courage to
support investigators like myself who are armed with
facts and information.   As Emerson said, "That form
of government which prevails is the expression of what
civilization exists in the population which permits
it." 

    C.D.: Many conspiriologists point the finger at
David Rockefeller as the most powerful financial
conspirator in America and maybe the world. Do you
agree? What about Hughes, H. L. Hunt? Others? Is
Chase-Manhattan really going broke?

    M.B.: David Rockefeller might be the most powerful
financial conspirator in America. Howard Hughes and H.
L. Hunt are dead. Daniel Ludwig is hiding.
 Rockefeller managed to keep their boy Kissinger
running all our foreign policies in every country
while their Exxon stayed on top, #1 Corporation for
profits. Nice arrangement!!   That is power. The
Bildebergers select our Presidents. ?   Is Ronald
Reagan a member of the Bildeberger and Tri-Lateral?
  I believe that the pecking order for front man
Presidents always was Nixon, Agnew, then Reagan.
Carter is an interim after Watergate.  If Ronald
Reagan were to become President because of Carter's
death, would the Rockefellers be powerful any more?
  Where would the power be transferred? To the
Pentagon and away from Wall Street. ?   The power is
in a silencer, secret weapon, possible drugs to make
Carter ill. It comes in many forms. This is a battle
royal between two kings, the Rockefeller Dynasty and
the Weapons-warfare, clandestine government the
Rockefellers created originally for their own power.
  CIA agent John Connally, one of the most powerful
men in the world, named as part of the DISC, FBI
combine that covered up the JFK assassination, is
opening funding offices for Reagan in D.C.    Can the
Rockefellers survive? Are they part of a dying era,
identical to Kaiser Wilhelm? Is the AMMUNITION
INDUSTRY READY TO TAKE OVER THE USA? That is where the
power struggle is taking place.   The Eastern Wall
Street International banks created spies and weapons
to march in order to protect their profits. The armies
turned against their masters. They decided they could
create their own wealth and power. New York is
crumbling. The Pentagon is stronger than ever. Yale,
Harvard, Princeton, and the top Eastern Universities
haven't produced a new idea or a constructive change
for all their classical education. They have been
swallowed by Pentagon and spy contracts. The USA looks
like a dance of death in every major city. 

    C.D.: Unless I am misreading you, you seem to have
some real respect for John F. Kennedy. Is there any
reason to believe that his idealistic line was for
real? Wasn't he just another glib gangster that lost?
Do you agree with Oglesby that he was an agent of the
old Wall Street Eastern Establishment (as was his Nazi
leaning father) and that his assassination was plotted
by Southern Rim upstarts

    M.B.: Yes, I do have a respect for John F.
Kennedy.  If you don't believe his idealistic line
was for real, just add up what he was doing when he
was killed.   JFK asked his brother, Attorney
General Robert Kennedy, to break up organized crime.
Nobody high up in government has tangled the Mafia. J.
E. Hoover, the FBI, CIA hired crime members as part of
assassination teams. They were used by the FBI and CIA
since World War II.   JFK was attempting to end the
oil-tax depletion rip-offs, to get tax money from oil
companies.   JFK instituted the nuclear test ban
treaty, often called "the kiss of death," to oppose
the Pentagon.   JFK called off the Invasion of Cuba.
He allowed Castro to live, antagonized narcotics and
gambling, oil and sugar interests, formerly in Cuba.
  JFK asked his brother, Attorney General Robert
Kennedy, to break up the CIA, the "hidden government
behind my back." Allen Dulles was fired. The attorney
for international multinationals, Dulles, was angry.
 JFK planned to withdraw troops from Vietnam after
1964 elections. Nov. 24, 1963, two days after JFK's
burial, the Pentagon had escalated the Vietnam war ...
with no known provocations, after JFK was gone.
  There was no chance Kennedy could survive
antagonizing the CIA, oil companies, Pentagon,
organized crime. He was not their man.
   The assassination of JFK utilized some people from the
Texas-Southwest. It was not a Southern plot. Upstarts
could not have controlled the Northern CIA, FBI,
Kennedy family connections. This was a more detailed,
sophisticated conspiracy that was to set the pattern
for future murders to take place.   The murder was
funded by Permindex, headquarters in Montreal and
Switzerland. Their stated purpose was to encourage
trade between nations in the Western world. Their
actual purpose was fourfold: 

    1) To fund and direct assassinations of European,
Mid-East and world leaders considered threats to the
Western World, and to Petroleum Interests of their
Backers. 

   
2) Provide couriers, agents for transporting and
depositing funds through Swiss Banks for Vegas, Miami,
and International gambling syndicate. 

   3) Coordinate the espionage activities of the White
Russian Solidarists and Division V of the FBI, headed
by William Sullivan. 

   4) Build and acquire, operate hotels and gambling
casinos. Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal by
William Torbitt.

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